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I would like to hear others opinions on this. Im not talking SM and SM because I want to hear more than an "army" answer. Example Soldier has an affair with a Civilian.
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Well the thesaurus says 'adultery' is synonymous with unfaithful, disloyal and falseness. No one is perfect and mistakes happen but to have the mindset there is nothing wrong with being unfaithful, disloyal and false, I'd say their morals don't match up with mine.
I certainly don't want to serve alongside someone who is disloyal to someone they loved enough to marry. How disloyal would they be to me?
I certainly don't want to serve alongside someone who is disloyal to someone they loved enough to marry. How disloyal would they be to me?
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SSG V. Michelle Woods
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I'd like to add while I don't condone such things, I don't believe one single act, regardless of what it is, defines a person's character. I believe there's a difference between doing a jerk thing and being a jerk, if that makes sense.
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I would like to say that I didn't intend to vote this comment down,I was trying to vote it up.
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I am so sorry Bob.
I’ve been riddled with guilt and I have to confess. I have been tapping your wife, day and night when you’re not around. I’m not getting it at home, but that’s no excuse. I can no longer live with the guilt and I hope you will accept my sincerest apology with my promise that it won’t happen again.
Bob, feeling anguished and betrayed, went into his bedroom, grabbed his gun, and without a word, shot and killed his wife.
A few moments later, a second text came in:
Damn autocorrect. I meant “wifi,” not “wife.”
I’ve been riddled with guilt and I have to confess. I have been tapping your wife, day and night when you’re not around. I’m not getting it at home, but that’s no excuse. I can no longer live with the guilt and I hope you will accept my sincerest apology with my promise that it won’t happen again.
Bob, feeling anguished and betrayed, went into his bedroom, grabbed his gun, and without a word, shot and killed his wife.
A few moments later, a second text came in:
Damn autocorrect. I meant “wifi,” not “wife.”
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Suspended Profile
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You have issues....
SPC Christopher Smith
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And this is why we have so many SHARP and EO trainings, lmao. Good one though.
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I hate to break out the Army Values but it's a simple explanation.
Loyalty, Respect, Honor, Integrity.
You're breaking each of those values when you either cheat on your spouse or knowingly have a relationship with someone else's spouse.
Loyalty, Respect, Honor, Integrity.
You're breaking each of those values when you either cheat on your spouse or knowingly have a relationship with someone else's spouse.
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SSG Chris Cherry
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Ultimately, it doesn't matter if their parents failed at being parents. It was someone's responsibility to instill morals and ethics into the soldier from the minute he or she raised their right hand and became a service member. There is a difference between babysitting your soldier and communicating with them and ensuring that they're not degenerates.
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SSG Genaro Negrete
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I agree wholeheartedly with SGT Cherry's original statement. Those are values we are, at minimum, required to emulate. At best, we live and breath those values and pass them on to out soldiers.
I'm not going to through the "we are soldiers 24/7" at those that say what happens between two consenting adults is not the army's business. I feel that argument is self evident and explanatory.
As for the punitive results, would it be better to keep the current repercussions, or simply mark NO on the NCO's values block of their NCOER. As I understand it, that's pretty much a career death sentence these days. As for guilty junior soldiers not tied to an NCOER, perhaps a Bar to re-enlist on the basis of violating the Army values.
I'm not going to through the "we are soldiers 24/7" at those that say what happens between two consenting adults is not the army's business. I feel that argument is self evident and explanatory.
As for the punitive results, would it be better to keep the current repercussions, or simply mark NO on the NCO's values block of their NCOER. As I understand it, that's pretty much a career death sentence these days. As for guilty junior soldiers not tied to an NCOER, perhaps a Bar to re-enlist on the basis of violating the Army values.
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SGT Cherry, you are on the right path with almost all of it. However, an individual's ethic is nearly wholly based on their upbringing and influence from parental figures. This includes how they learned deductive reasoning and difference between right and wrong etc...The Army can influence an individuals decision making process and likely behavior through present leadership and mentoring with Army ethic as a foundation. But personal ethic is separate altogether and can usually not be altered once it is established. There is a decent chapter on this in FM 6-22 and ADRP 6-22 that covers how you must take into account an individuals personal ethic when establishing yourself as a leader.
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