Posted on May 19, 2024
Are USCAMEL 10X50 Marine binoculars appropriate or deficient for combat use or a reconnaissance mission on today's battlefield?
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I bought these binoculars from Amazon:
USCAMEL 10X50 Marine Binoculars for Adults with Rangefinder Compass, Waterproof Marine Binoculars for Sailing Boating Fishing https://a.co/d/1m7xJbK
They seem good to me, but this is not my area of expertise. What problems do you see in them? I'm a private military contractor and I need a decent pair for Ukraine and maybe other locations.
USCAMEL 10X50 Marine Binoculars for Adults with Rangefinder Compass, Waterproof Marine Binoculars for Sailing Boating Fishing https://a.co/d/1m7xJbK
They seem good to me, but this is not my area of expertise. What problems do you see in them? I'm a private military contractor and I need a decent pair for Ukraine and maybe other locations.
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I would suggest that you go to a sporting goods store and ask to see that various binoculars available see what style suits your needs. Once you find a good pair then order them on-line.
The link to the ones above is a set of nice binoculars but I would also recommend you find a smaller set for simply the weigh and compactness moving through woodland areas by crawling, stealthy movement or running.
Below is a link to view before you search:
https://youtu.be/_AyPBEte6rk
The link to the ones above is a set of nice binoculars but I would also recommend you find a smaller set for simply the weigh and compactness moving through woodland areas by crawling, stealthy movement or running.
Below is a link to view before you search:
https://youtu.be/_AyPBEte6rk
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they look ok but you neet to see what the shock rating is, are the lenses coated for laser protection and most importantly, is the scale inside the optic a Mil Radian scale, that is adaptable for range finding on a MGRS map or is it set up for a different scale and using UTM maps. UGRS and UTM are similar but not exactly the same.
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SSG Roger Ayscue
SPC Elijah J. Henry, MBA - They are expensive, but the Steiner Military is available. I looked hard and found some German MilSurp Henscholdt Binos that had a STANAG ranging scale in them for 350 bucks. I snapped those up quick
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SPC Elijah J. Henry, MBA
SSG Roger Ayscue - I'm looking at Steiner Military/Marine. The 7x50, 8x30, and 10x50 are all within a reasonable budget. Any recommendations as far as these go?
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SSG Roger Ayscue
Considerations are Size vs features. Do all have the ranging reticle, are any laser coated, and maximum light transferability through an objective lens.
10 power magnification is a great tool, but a 50mm objective transfers the same amount of light as a 30mm lens, if the crystal is of the same quality and lead content.
10 power magnification is a great tool, but a 50mm objective transfers the same amount of light as a 30mm lens, if the crystal is of the same quality and lead content.
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SPC Elijah J. Henry, MBA
SSG Roger Ayscue - I'm not finding anything about reticles or laser coatings. I'm leaning toward the Steiner 10x28 Tactical now.
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I would also suggest a Garmin Instinct Solar Power watch. it is >$300 and gives you real-time GPS location in multiple formats, updated in real-time as you move and recharge using a built-in solar panel. Since I retired from the Army I have done both air and ground search and rescue (SAR) and am a graduate of the NC Wilderness SAR Team Leader Course. It is awesome to relay a detailed and absolute location over a radio. Add to this a good range finder (I use a Bresser 800) also >$300 bucks and with that, and a map I can call a polar plot in just a minute or so.
If you have the chance add a Leupold LTO Tracker 2 Termal viewer. It is a high-impact aluminum 30mm tube that using a co-witness mount and placed in front of an M68 CCO converts the M68 into a lightweight Thermal Weapons sight, using the non-magnification feature on the LTO (It will magnify up to x6 but with the CCo use X0) and the red dot on the CCO, they can be co-witnessed on an M-4 to great effect. All three of these and a Number three with Bacon can be obtained for less than $1200.
If you have the chance add a Leupold LTO Tracker 2 Termal viewer. It is a high-impact aluminum 30mm tube that using a co-witness mount and placed in front of an M68 CCO converts the M68 into a lightweight Thermal Weapons sight, using the non-magnification feature on the LTO (It will magnify up to x6 but with the CCo use X0) and the red dot on the CCO, they can be co-witnessed on an M-4 to great effect. All three of these and a Number three with Bacon can be obtained for less than $1200.
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SPC Elijah J. Henry, MBA
I'm not finding this Leupold LTO Tracker 2 Thermal viewer anywhere. The sites that have it, it's discontinued. Any alternative suggestions?
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SSG Roger Ayscue
SPC Elijah J. Henry, MBA - Good call on the FAB Arms. FAB is Israeli and it has a manual retention adjustment that makes up for the problems I noted on the UTG/Budget covers.
As for the ballistics, this is the best that I can come up with in the short time:
Creating a detailed bullet trajectory chart for both the 5.45x39mm round from an AK74 and the 5.56mm round from an M4 would involve a comprehensive list of values at each increment. However, I can provide you with a simplified version that outlines the trajectory at key distances. For a full trajectory chart, you would typically use a ballistics calculator or software.
Here’s a simplified bullet trajectory comparison starting at 10 meters and increasing in increments of 25 meters:
Distance (m) | 5.45x39mm Drop (cm) | 5.56mm Drop (cm)
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10 | 0 | 0
35 | -0.5 | -0.4
60 | -2.1 | -1.6
85 | -4.8 | -3.7
110 | -8.6 | -6.9
135 | -13.5 | -11.2
160 | -19.6 | -16.7
185 | -26.9 | -23.3
210 | -35.4 | -31.1
235 | -45.1 | -40.1
260 | -56.0 | -50.3
285 | -68.2 | -61.7
310 | -81.6 | -74.3
... | ... | ...
(Max Range) | ... | ...
Please note that the values above are illustrative and based on a standard zero at 100 meters. The actual bullet drop can vary depending on factors such as barrel length, ammunition type, and environmental conditions. The maximum effective range for the 5.45x39mm AK74 is typically around 500-600 meters, while for the 5.56mm M4, it can be up to 500-550 meters under ideal conditions.
For precise shooting and ballistics planning, it’s recommended to use a ballistics calculator with the specific ammunition and rifle characteristics you’re using. This will give you a more accurate trajectory chart for your particular setup.
As for the ballistics, this is the best that I can come up with in the short time:
Creating a detailed bullet trajectory chart for both the 5.45x39mm round from an AK74 and the 5.56mm round from an M4 would involve a comprehensive list of values at each increment. However, I can provide you with a simplified version that outlines the trajectory at key distances. For a full trajectory chart, you would typically use a ballistics calculator or software.
Here’s a simplified bullet trajectory comparison starting at 10 meters and increasing in increments of 25 meters:
Distance (m) | 5.45x39mm Drop (cm) | 5.56mm Drop (cm)
-----------------------------------------------------
10 | 0 | 0
35 | -0.5 | -0.4
60 | -2.1 | -1.6
85 | -4.8 | -3.7
110 | -8.6 | -6.9
135 | -13.5 | -11.2
160 | -19.6 | -16.7
185 | -26.9 | -23.3
210 | -35.4 | -31.1
235 | -45.1 | -40.1
260 | -56.0 | -50.3
285 | -68.2 | -61.7
310 | -81.6 | -74.3
... | ... | ...
(Max Range) | ... | ...
Please note that the values above are illustrative and based on a standard zero at 100 meters. The actual bullet drop can vary depending on factors such as barrel length, ammunition type, and environmental conditions. The maximum effective range for the 5.45x39mm AK74 is typically around 500-600 meters, while for the 5.56mm M4, it can be up to 500-550 meters under ideal conditions.
For precise shooting and ballistics planning, it’s recommended to use a ballistics calculator with the specific ammunition and rifle characteristics you’re using. This will give you a more accurate trajectory chart for your particular setup.
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SPC Elijah J. Henry, MBA
SSG Roger Ayscue - thank you! I appreciate the effort and knowledge you put into that. I'm not finding this Leupold LTO Tracker 2 Thermal viewer anywhere. The sites that have it, it's discontinued. Any alternative suggestions?
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SSG Roger Ayscue
SPC Elijah J. Henry, MBA - You can check any number of systems from ATN but I would be careful as I am not sure that they are rated for nor would they stand up to the conditions of actual combat.
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