Posted on Oct 7, 2015
Politics of the Sound Bite. What Are Your Thoughts?
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Some things to think about, if you can actually think rather than parroting the currently popular sound bites:
We constantly hear about how Social Security is going to run out of money. But we never hear about who spent the money and where it went. And we never hear that Welfare is running out of money. Isn't it strange that the fund for people who worked for their money is running dry and the fund for people who don't work for their money is flush?
The government and the current Washington D.C. culture tells us to not judge ALL Muslims be the actions of a few lunatics, but encourages us to judge ALL Gun Owners by the actions of a few lunatics.
And if you are one of those who rags on Islam, reverse it. You don't want Gun Owners judged by the actions of a few lunatics, but you are more than willing to condemn Islam for the actions of a few lunatics.
We are encouraged to not judge people by their looks, their race, or their color, but fearful people want us to judge weapons because they "look" military.
All Americans want less senseless tragedies, but some people are willing to accept any measure, no matter how little it has done to solve the problem. If you are in favor of gun bans, explain why they have worked so poorly in the two cities which vie for Murder Capitol of the United States every year, Chicago and Washington D.C.?
The number 2 illegal import into the United States (after drugs and before illegal aliens) is guns, and not hunting rifles and self-defense weapons, but machine guns and sawed-off guns which are ALREADY illegal. So even if you could take up every legally owned firearm in the United States, what are gun bans going to do to stem that flow?
We constantly hear about how Social Security is going to run out of money. But we never hear about who spent the money and where it went. And we never hear that Welfare is running out of money. Isn't it strange that the fund for people who worked for their money is running dry and the fund for people who don't work for their money is flush?
The government and the current Washington D.C. culture tells us to not judge ALL Muslims be the actions of a few lunatics, but encourages us to judge ALL Gun Owners by the actions of a few lunatics.
And if you are one of those who rags on Islam, reverse it. You don't want Gun Owners judged by the actions of a few lunatics, but you are more than willing to condemn Islam for the actions of a few lunatics.
We are encouraged to not judge people by their looks, their race, or their color, but fearful people want us to judge weapons because they "look" military.
All Americans want less senseless tragedies, but some people are willing to accept any measure, no matter how little it has done to solve the problem. If you are in favor of gun bans, explain why they have worked so poorly in the two cities which vie for Murder Capitol of the United States every year, Chicago and Washington D.C.?
The number 2 illegal import into the United States (after drugs and before illegal aliens) is guns, and not hunting rifles and self-defense weapons, but machine guns and sawed-off guns which are ALREADY illegal. So even if you could take up every legally owned firearm in the United States, what are gun bans going to do to stem that flow?
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We constantly hear about how Social Security is going to run out of money - because there isn't any money "saved". They all dumped into the general "spending", and left a lot of IOU notices. It had already run out of money in that sense. The current SSN is survive on the Ponzi scheme system.
About Gun and Islam, there is an ultimate different. One is an item, and the other is a idea of how a society should run and behave. So it is an absolutely wrong comparison. Guns don't go around and TEACH youth to kill those who disagree with guns, but Islam do. If they want to bring in Christian on this topic? fine, 1000 years ago, Christian behave the same ... but that is 1000 years ago. Christianity evolved, but Islam still remain at 1000 years ago.
About gun control, "Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun". learn anything yet? It is not about the safety of the citizen, it is about the threat of the citizen represented to the political elitist. In a nicer way, it is easier for politician want general public to depend on police force, and to campaign that he/she increased the police force funding, when crime rate is climbing.
Sound bites is to catch supports for those that have short attention span. It become so effective that ... politician take full advantage of it, and soon the power of the short spanned grow in political realm ... and eventually some politician realize that sound bites don't need truth to back them up, as long as it sound right or feel good. Here you go the whole story.
About Gun and Islam, there is an ultimate different. One is an item, and the other is a idea of how a society should run and behave. So it is an absolutely wrong comparison. Guns don't go around and TEACH youth to kill those who disagree with guns, but Islam do. If they want to bring in Christian on this topic? fine, 1000 years ago, Christian behave the same ... but that is 1000 years ago. Christianity evolved, but Islam still remain at 1000 years ago.
About gun control, "Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun". learn anything yet? It is not about the safety of the citizen, it is about the threat of the citizen represented to the political elitist. In a nicer way, it is easier for politician want general public to depend on police force, and to campaign that he/she increased the police force funding, when crime rate is climbing.
Sound bites is to catch supports for those that have short attention span. It become so effective that ... politician take full advantage of it, and soon the power of the short spanned grow in political realm ... and eventually some politician realize that sound bites don't need truth to back them up, as long as it sound right or feel good. Here you go the whole story.
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PO3 (Join to see), you are doing the same thing that the administration does, confusing the issue. The issue is PEOPLE. People deserve to be treated as you want to be treated. Isn't that what the Golden Rule is all about? Yes, Islam could use to fixing up, but you aren't going to get it by treating them as less that anyone else. The same applies to Gun Owners. Targeting a group of people because of the actions of a few is WRONG, and no amount of doubletalk can make it right.
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SGM (Join to see) - No, Islam is a manifest of ideas, that poisoned people minds. Gun? a item used by people that mind had been poisoned. Don't even try to use it as example together, you are actually play right into anti-gun's game rules.
People "deserve"? I only deserve that my rights are not trump upon. Nothing else. For that being said, if I am associated myself with terrorist and openly walking around and with them? Do you think Air force's bomb care about my rights? But I am still the same good guys? #BOOM# I am gone. That is all I will said about Islam and good muslim.
Gun owner is ownership status, the only "idea" that share between gun owner is to owning firearm. So if you really want find an example to compare is car owner, or share holder.
To your idea of treating people how I would like to be treated. That is all nice and goodie, but life don't work that way. That is why Islam and Muslim get bad name, and gun owner get bad name too for a whole different reason. Islam get bad name is because it's believer acted on the teaching, and kill innocents as the teaching have asked it's believer to do. Gun owner get bad name is because someone want to "take care" of all guns, so they use gun's incident to smear their name. One is acting on, and the other is acted upon on by someone else. So Think carefully the differences, you may have simplified them too much into people feeling toward them only. Islam's bad name is by their action, gun owner's bad name? is a "marketing" result.
People "deserve"? I only deserve that my rights are not trump upon. Nothing else. For that being said, if I am associated myself with terrorist and openly walking around and with them? Do you think Air force's bomb care about my rights? But I am still the same good guys? #BOOM# I am gone. That is all I will said about Islam and good muslim.
Gun owner is ownership status, the only "idea" that share between gun owner is to owning firearm. So if you really want find an example to compare is car owner, or share holder.
To your idea of treating people how I would like to be treated. That is all nice and goodie, but life don't work that way. That is why Islam and Muslim get bad name, and gun owner get bad name too for a whole different reason. Islam get bad name is because it's believer acted on the teaching, and kill innocents as the teaching have asked it's believer to do. Gun owner get bad name is because someone want to "take care" of all guns, so they use gun's incident to smear their name. One is acting on, and the other is acted upon on by someone else. So Think carefully the differences, you may have simplified them too much into people feeling toward them only. Islam's bad name is by their action, gun owner's bad name? is a "marketing" result.
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PO3 (Join to see) I find it extraordinary that a member of a minority can be as prejudiced and judgemental as you are. Are there no Moslems on your ship? Well, there are in the Army and with the exception of traitors like Hassan and Akbar, they are good people serving our country. Your attitude is a disgrace you your service and you are a disgrace to your uniform for not respecting members of the armed services, if no one else.
Islam is separate from the people who believe in it. Becoming a Moslem does not automatically force you to become a wife beating, goat herding, suicide bomber any more than owning a gun forces you to become a mass murderer.
But this is the last I intend to say to you about it. Be the reincarnation of some KKK redneck wanting to hang coloreds from a tree if it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
Islam is separate from the people who believe in it. Becoming a Moslem does not automatically force you to become a wife beating, goat herding, suicide bomber any more than owning a gun forces you to become a mass murderer.
But this is the last I intend to say to you about it. Be the reincarnation of some KKK redneck wanting to hang coloreds from a tree if it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
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PO3 (Join to see)
Well ... like I stated, Islamist is different than Muslim. I don't hate Muslim, but during a war, if a Muslim stand beside a Islamist ... sorry ... #boom#. did I stated that wrong?
Second, you and I can't fight this war for them, all we can do is to protect ourselves. They will need to fight this ideological war among themselves. My apology that you think I am a disgrace. The fact is, what I said is the truth. You just refuse to admit it. You may discredit me by using KKK, Islam is just like KKK, KKK is a manifested idea too. They share a similar type of idea which is people that different than them must be "taken care of" one way or the other. Like I also stated somewhere else, All faith been through such phase, even Christianity and Buddhism. Yes, even Buddhism, the all peaceful one. That is not prejudiced. It just fact. The only different is, Is there is still a majority of those believer or follower never grow out of such idea?
Judgmental? We lived by the guns ... tell me about judgmental later. We "judged" everything, so stop the PC's word attack. by not making a decision(judgement), that mean you are always wrong. So live on with you merry way of none judgmental, I live my stupid crazy life of keep judging everything. Remember, don't "judge" which food is better, ok? Judgmental ... sigh ...
Second, you and I can't fight this war for them, all we can do is to protect ourselves. They will need to fight this ideological war among themselves. My apology that you think I am a disgrace. The fact is, what I said is the truth. You just refuse to admit it. You may discredit me by using KKK, Islam is just like KKK, KKK is a manifested idea too. They share a similar type of idea which is people that different than them must be "taken care of" one way or the other. Like I also stated somewhere else, All faith been through such phase, even Christianity and Buddhism. Yes, even Buddhism, the all peaceful one. That is not prejudiced. It just fact. The only different is, Is there is still a majority of those believer or follower never grow out of such idea?
Judgmental? We lived by the guns ... tell me about judgmental later. We "judged" everything, so stop the PC's word attack. by not making a decision(judgement), that mean you are always wrong. So live on with you merry way of none judgmental, I live my stupid crazy life of keep judging everything. Remember, don't "judge" which food is better, ok? Judgmental ... sigh ...
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Sound bites work well for a society that does not take the time to really study the issues and see where the politicians stand on each one. If they did, they would not be re-electing the big majority of Representatives and Senators to office over and over. And Politicians know that most people will not study the issues or have informed views on them. Yet, they will know everything about the Kardashians.
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COL Jon Thompson
SGT (Join to see) - That is one fault of the Constitution but I imagine that the founding fathers never thought it would get to this. I fully agree. No more than 2 terms as a Senator and no more than 4 terms as a Rep.
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COL Jon Thompson - I completely agree sir. That's why I am hoping that the Convention of the States gets enough states to add an amendment to the Constitution to make this happen.
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COL Jon Thompson SGT (Join to see) while I don't disagree with term limits, I think that's the second best solution.
If you have a toothache, do you go to a lawyer? If you need a road built, or car repaired, or you want to invest in the stock market, is a lawyer the first call you make?
We send the people LEAST likely to actually understand and solve problems to Congress, where they make laws about things they don't understand that benefit only their class. This is a fundamental conflict of interest.
I suggest that the holding of any law degree should be a bar to election to legislative office. God knows I think Congress should be staffed by technologists, engineers, doctors, dentists, nurses, educators, economists, and others who have practical experience solving problems, but frankly I don't think 535 drunks scraped off the streets could do a significantly worse job of running the country.
If you have a toothache, do you go to a lawyer? If you need a road built, or car repaired, or you want to invest in the stock market, is a lawyer the first call you make?
We send the people LEAST likely to actually understand and solve problems to Congress, where they make laws about things they don't understand that benefit only their class. This is a fundamental conflict of interest.
I suggest that the holding of any law degree should be a bar to election to legislative office. God knows I think Congress should be staffed by technologists, engineers, doctors, dentists, nurses, educators, economists, and others who have practical experience solving problems, but frankly I don't think 535 drunks scraped off the streets could do a significantly worse job of running the country.
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SGM (Join to see) - While I agree with your assessment SGM, the reason I am all for term limits is because when one person (or a group of people) hold a position of power over so many citizens, corruption will be sure to run rampant. Some of these Senators have been in office for 30-40 years. And look at a couple things I see in corruption as of now: Congress is exempt from ObamaCare (yet they rammed that down the American peoples throats), Most get paid over $100,000.00 just for being a Congressman/woman (that doesn't include the other revenue from lobbyists etc.), They will continue to get paid when they "retire" for the rest of their lives, and the list can go on. Lobbyists spend years grooming the Congressman/woman and spend thousands to millions of dollars to them to sway their votes their way. Term limits would reduce some of that.
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Don't you know, It's not nice to try and counter liberal progressive dogma with facts. I've always been interested in the way raw data is presented to the public. We all know that the US homicide rate is high. (I don’t have the exact numbers at hand, but there is no real disagreement with this statement.) However, I wonder what the US homicide ranking would be if we deducted from the total count, the number of homicides committed in "gun free" areas which have been administered by Democrats for a long time, say, more than ten years? I am thinking Chicago, Washington D.C., and Baltimore.
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Oddly enough, people forget that the United States is the 3rd most populous nation on the planet, as well as being the 3rd largest in terms of land area. Is it any surprise that we are near the top in actual homicides committed?
Yet if you look at homicides per capita, we are between 20th and 40th, depending on who's numbers you like best.
Still, I agree with your basic premise. The data showing Chicago's homicide rate more than 4 times Houston's rate speaks for itself.
Yet if you look at homicides per capita, we are between 20th and 40th, depending on who's numbers you like best.
Still, I agree with your basic premise. The data showing Chicago's homicide rate more than 4 times Houston's rate speaks for itself.
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