Posted on Oct 26, 2015
SSgt Paul Esquibel
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As the AF changes so does the rating system, what are your thoughts on the new changes. I've seen three EPR changes in the 15 years on active service, we moved from less performance impacting bullets to more well rounded bullets to now back to more performance. I personally like the new system even though it has it's flaws, it's points to the hard workers who need not consume their time with more volunteer and school but focus on the job performance more while still volunteering within range and obtaining higher education.
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The thing is, for SF at least, most people will have all the same material on their EPR. Sure the dirt bags won't be written as well as the others, but in general, most EPR's look the same. with that being said, I think that volunteering and all the extra stuff will still play a huge part in who gets the best rating now. 1206's still require base/community support. Say Amn X volunteers and does good at work and that person that goes out and wins airman of the _____, they will get a higher rating than the one that does their job just as well, but didn't volunteer.
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Completely agree with you SSgt Paul Esquibel. There is no doubt that people should be separating the levels of performance. But my argument is when you are only allowed (1) perfect rating for a particular rank, what is going to be the determining factor that sets you two best performers apart?
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Awards or school probably, with the exception of combat related duties, the deciding factors would come down to the electives or sub categories or the persons personal opinion which is the bad part. I think that the only better system than the AF could use would be like the point system that he Army and Marines use, while I have learned the inflation stories of that type of rating I could see it being tweaked to fit AF missions and goals, what do you thing?
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I would challenge to still look at the layout of 1206s and the points associated with those packages. Duty Performance still carries the weight. I think we wrap our heads around the axle too much on base/community involvement as the smoking gun on 1206's. These opportunities, in most instances provide opportunities for leadership/management that they may not yet be able to tap into. That could be a positive way of looking at it. Let the "Bake Sale" comments begin! :)
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PO1 Andrew Gardiner - That's pretty much what's going on now, at least in my career field. Senior leadership is working on the "rack-and-stack" process for SSgts right now.
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MSgt Devon Saunders
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My only gripe about the new EES is the same Chiefs who benefited from the old overinflated system "now" want to change the system.
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Bla bla bla, The Air Force throws the baby out with the bathwater every 5-10 year seemingly just for change sakes. The EPR system seems to be the most changed item. We went from APRs to EPRs with many growing pains. All for a net gain of nothing, really. I don't see this effort being any different...
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