Posted on Dec 1, 2013
SSG Robert Burns
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I actually like the balls.  My wife looks forward to it.  I do think however that leadership can kill the motivation to go by trying to militarize it too much.  That's what we have dining-ins/outs for.  Our soldiers (especially females) don't get too many opportunities to dress up for formal occasions.  Why not let them do it?
I have the mess dress and I like to wear it.  What's wrong with letting some females go out and find a gorgeous gown instead of wearing their ASUs like we do for work?
Let a ball be a ball and not a uniform inspection.
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SGM Matthew Quick
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Killing motivation by "militarizing" a military ball?<br><br>Are we not in the military? &nbsp;We should take PRIDE in wearing our formal uniforms?<br><br>Too often I read about how we're letting our NCOs Corps down by not enforcing standards or letting our standards fall by the way side.<br><br>Personally, I'd like to see female service members in gowns/dresses, BUT, we can't keep screaming "EQUALITY, EQUALITY" and pick and choose when.<br>
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SSG Robert Burns
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Believe me I'm all about wearing the uniform.  That's why I invested in the Mess Dress.  However, I do believe for something that is supposed to be a morale building social event, there should be an option.

I think you can still have PRIDE in the uniform without having to wear it everywhere you go.  For an event where I can bring my spouse and she can wear this extravagent ball gown with her hair down and nice shoes, jewelry etc. but my peer has to wear her uniform, hair up, no jewlery, its not the same.

For us it really doesnt matter because we have a real equivalent.  The mess dress or even the blues for that matter is basically a tuxedo with ribbons on it.  We can't "do" our hair.  That's about the extent of our showing off.

Im just saying for once, let a woman be a woman and do what women like to do.

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I've been in the position to recommend the "uniform" for several of my prior units events, whether they be dining in or ball, or whatever in between.  I've always went with all wear the uniform. 

 

 We are a uniformed organization and should be proud of that.  I have and continue to fail to understand why the question is even brought up when it is never offered as an option to male Soldiers.  As with MSG Quick, my opinion is simple, Equality isn't Equality if only applied sometimes.  

 

There are numerous opportunities for Soldiers to wear civilian formal wear, they are more than welcome to attend those events and wear whatever tux, gown, or whatever their heart desires, but for a Army sponsored event the ASU's/Mess Dress is the only option.     

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SSG Robert Burns
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1SG, you stated we have numerous opportunites to wear civilian formal wear.  Where or when would that be?  As far as I understand most balls are with the organization to which you belong.  We obviously all belong to the same one.  Other than going to a wedding or a funeral, what other numerous opportunities are you referring to?  FYI I usually end up wearing my uniform to weddings and funerals as well.

As far as males are concenred, when Ive seen it offered as an option it is offered across the board.  The difference is most of us just dont care because our uniform is probably the nicest thing we got and most soldiers cant afford a tux nor like wearing them.

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SSG Burns, sorry for writing "over" you, just a configuration thing.  I apologize for the lack of clarity.  I meant that there are opportunities, not necessarily Army events, that allow one to not wear a uniform/wear civilian formal wear.  An example would be, a Daddy/Daughter dance, some of which are on posts.  Perhaps a Valentines banquet for the couples.  These are but two examples, and while they are not Army events like a Ball, Dining Out or whatever, I wonder what events our civilian counterparts might have for formal wear that we think we might be missing out on?
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Cpl Glynis Sakowicz
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OK, being Marine, I am seriously the wrong person to answer this!  We  Women Marines, consider the Dress Blues to be the most perfect Ball Gown created, because we are intensely proud of having the honor to wear that uniform... and we get that chance every year  in November.

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CMC Robert Young
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Cpl. you are spot on about the Marine Dress Blues. I have never had the opportunity to attend a Marine Corps Ball, but my stepson just got out after four years as a Marine. He still raves about how impressive Marine Corps Balls are, and the photos I have seen reflect a level of espirit de corps everybody else lacks. I would like to be stationed close enough to attend one before I retire.
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