Posted on Apr 5, 2016
How do we get back to the traditional basics of the miliary?
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My question about "what is considered archaic/traditional that we need to get away from?" The responses were - well read them. I made the intentional absurdity - with valid argument - that formations need to become minimal (up in arms we go!) From an objective viewpoint many of these traditions have faded away. But, now that they are gone and holistically changed the military. How do we go back?
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SFC Randy Purham I would say discipline and good order. Respect and dignity up the chain and down. Get back to the core ethic values!
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SFC Randy Purham
SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL, First off, Congratulations on your retirement! 2nd. Its very difficult to enforce these things nowadays with "Soldier's Rights" NCOs hands are tied essentially with a lot of things that once were allowed. 3 -counseling(s) for the same offense A15, physical corrective action for minor things and to improve their PT, 6 months before TDS comes back with your packet for UCMJ, etc. It has gotten sad and out of control. What's even more cray cray is its allowed by everyone. So, yes. I concur. But, good luck.
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We start by instilling better discipline, pride, and build with a more defined focus and clarity/transparency of mission.
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SFC Randy Purham
SSG Ed Mikus, sounds good. But how. Where, when, and with what/who? Instill discipline into a Soldier through what mechanisms? Build pride how? focus and clarity/transparency on what mission - flag detail, Staff duty, or clearing a house in a small village occupied by ISIS fighters?
The problem is, we place a broad scope of band-aids on things where there are no wounds. If we say we need to start - then we have failed. What I like to hear is let us continue. At some point we stopped and had our hands tied. Depending on how long you been in, you know it was a time where you can do things to instill discipline - now it takes an act of Congress. And this entitlement generation.... Yeah, Coupled with Liberal Officers and "Yes" NCOs. Sure.
The problem is, we place a broad scope of band-aids on things where there are no wounds. If we say we need to start - then we have failed. What I like to hear is let us continue. At some point we stopped and had our hands tied. Depending on how long you been in, you know it was a time where you can do things to instill discipline - now it takes an act of Congress. And this entitlement generation.... Yeah, Coupled with Liberal Officers and "Yes" NCOs. Sure.
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SSG Ed Mikus
SFC Randy Purham you make some great points, I have no answers. and yes, i feel there are areas where we as a force have failed. If we do not correct them then we will have more serious issues than we complain about today.
We have great tools for all of these things we have great tools, we have gotten away from using them. In my team we are working on transparency of mission my having pre-mission briefs, pride by ensuring people are recognized, however when it comes to discipline we are weak, however we are addressing it.
I think all of these things must be addressed at all levels at the same time and continually.
Thanks for making me think!
We have great tools for all of these things we have great tools, we have gotten away from using them. In my team we are working on transparency of mission my having pre-mission briefs, pride by ensuring people are recognized, however when it comes to discipline we are weak, however we are addressing it.
I think all of these things must be addressed at all levels at the same time and continually.
Thanks for making me think!
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