Posted on May 23, 2016
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Russia and China has signed an agreement not to hack each other. Should this been cited as a beginning to establishing international norms in cyberspace between major counties?

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/05/08/russia-china-pledge-to-not-hack-each-other/
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If I was to ever start a tech business, I would ENCOURAGE outsiders to test my systems, and pay them for any flaws they find, so we can fix it. But that's besides this article. I don't see any agreements being upheld by any country, because anyone with time and a brain can learn to program. So in short, countries won't hack eachother, they will just pay others to do it for them
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proxy and proxy wars are currently the norm and not limited to cyberspace. What do you proposed as a international norm for cyberspace between countries? The US's stated position is to retaliate with kinetics if necessary...of course between great powers, that means the escalation to nukes.
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Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin
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Most do, but not their operational systems (at least not in a control and measured approach). They have a business to run.
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SSgt Robert Marx
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The nefarious conduct of hacking into another power's computer grid places such practitioners into an amoral status meaning that their word is no good. I would not hold faith to any such "agreement."
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Hacking is about exploiting weaknesses and flaws. Under that same line of thought using stealth to exploit flaws or using electronic warfare technology to produce multiple or deceptive tracts in Radar would be consider nefarious....
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SSgt Robert Marx
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Yes, sir, that is true; however, the hacking of US computers by both Russia & China has been done in peace time and with full diplomatic relations. That would make their snooping stealing. Of course, US signal gatherings and other electronic eavesdropping also is at best unethical. I will go with the fact that both Russia & China do not abide with their word and so agreements with them are spurious.
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Espionage is not necessarily the problem, there are provisions in international laws and agreement for that. Individual profiting from hacking on behalf of the government is another story. finally snooping and stealing isn't necessarily the focus of the agreement, causing damage like shutting down electrical systems, collapsing finance infrastructures, or shutting down a government is....which can result in a war.
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Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin
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Both "say" they're not hacking us already too... Having an agreement between each other isn't much of a big deal since they're not really trying to steal each other's information and technology.
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