Posted on Dec 4, 2013
Why is it that units fight the CBRN training/program so much?
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Why is it that units fight the CBRN training/program so much we as CBRN soldiers need to maintain our proficiency as well as ensure the unit is ready so why fight when you have someone trying to put together a program for the soldiers so much because you feel it's not important? Bottom line up front I feel if we as CBRN soldiers can and will/have to perform many of the other vast array of duty positions within the army then please stop giving us the fight when we are trying to strengthen ourselves by doing our training cause if you needed those soldiers to perform their actual job many of them at this present time would be clueless and we would have a greater problem and everyone would be saying why don't you know your job you got trained in it. Just venting my apologies everyone
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I was one of those folks that fought CBRN training in my past units. Based on our mission set and the threat, CBRN was not relevant.
You only have so much time to train and we have to train on those critical tasks that matter based on the threat.
Now the good news - I am a full supporter of CBRN training at my unit now. We are in Okinawa and are tasked with knocking down some errant missiles coming from North Korea. Pretty sure if they are throwing stuff this way, they'll have chemicals on them.
So, based on the threat here, CBRN is very relevant and we devote quite a bit of time to it.
I think it just depends on where you're at and the threat you face as to how important CBRN training is.
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Csm Maynard I agree I didn't want to put out the complete situation. However lets say your unit never had a Cbrn program you told the incoming 74d that they would get full support and that it was important to you, as the 74 we start the planning process get the sop published, and conduct inspections after looking at the results of inspections I realize we need a lot of training and help to get to standard. We send out Fragos tasking the 74's in the entire unit to attend weekly training/sync meeting however no one shows up. I speak to the cdr and 1sg of the units and they believe its a waste of that soldiers time. How can they say that and never even showed up. Then a cdr emails me saying well I need the task that are being trained to tie into the METL. I explained to the cdr that the METL task are what that 74 trains to the unit however what I would be training them on is their responsibilities, retaining their mos proficiency and ensuring they knew how to train the units. This threw me for a loop cause my only was it not expected but as the senior 74 it's my responsibility to ensure those soldiers are properly trained so it kinda off put me I spoke to my boss and he didn't back me up at all but instead suggested I find another way to get my mission accomplished. Now I am a creative and willing Nco however of the support is not there and I have laid the program out and briefed the plan what else is there to accomplish?
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Well this my question is have you conducted that training while in MOPP 4? What is Prevention g you to incorporate CBRN with your METL Training? The same can be done I one Monday morning command maintain day and you can add one CBRN task to your Sergeant Time Training. You can do CBRN marksmanship in the EST (Mask and gloves are the minimum.
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I'm not sure that the units are fighting it (CBRN program). I think it may be more of a "lack of interest" issue. It seems to me that Commanders don't aknowledge the CBRN threat in the current theater of operations, and therefore doesn't need the same attention as other programs and duties. I have the same issue with two of my additional duties, Antiterrorism and OPSEC. Nobody seems to care until Division and Corps start talking about OIP inspections.
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Complacency stateside more than likely SSG Nelson and if you receive no support from the CMD Team, then the rest of the Soldiers will "buck" it too.
No need to apologize, its frustrating to everyone in a situation similar to yours.
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SSG Best your right but as leaders who are charged with ensure our soldiers are trained and proficient how are we ensuring this? Prime example the few 74's are excited because they have lost many of their skills I talk to them and try to mentor them in passing by however many of them are so consumed in the extra/additional duties that they can't do the one thing the army trained them to do. The soldiers want to learn and rehone the skills and teach the leaders and soldiers what they need to so but from constant put downs, overloads, and unsupportiveness they are now for a lack of better term feel outcasted and
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