Posted on Dec 5, 2013
Fact or Fiction? If outside, under cover, you are not required to wear head gear.
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I get to hear a lot of interesting questions and stories.
Figured I would start postingg some "common" stuff that either I heard growing up or Soldiers have told me that they have heard.
Want to see what folks have been told, what they believe and what is actually right.
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If outside and the area is marked no head gear then no head gear, but if it isn't marked you wear head gear Or be prepared to be put on CSM's grass cutting detail! LOL So i have been told.
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The phrase "under cover" literally does not occur in AR 670-1 (I've just cntrl+F'ed it like 10 times to be sure). What it DOES say, is that it will be worn outdoors. So I guess the only lattitude a barracks lawyer could find is "how do you define outdoors?", but I don't see that flying far...
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SFC (Join to see)
As SFC Michael Hasbun stated, there is no such thing as "Under Cover."
From AR 670-1, dated 15 Sept 2014:
l. Soldiers will wear headgear with the Army uniform, except under the following circumstances:
(1) Headgear is not required if it would interfere with the safe operation of military vehicles. Wearing military headgear is not required while in or on a privately owned vehicle (to include a motorcycle, bicycle, or convertible automobile), a commercial vehicle, or on public conveyance (such as a subway, train, plane, or bus).
(2) Soldiers will not wear headgear indoors, unless under arms in an official capacity, or when directed by the commander, such as for indoor ceremonial activities.
(3) Male and female Soldiers are not required to wear headgear to evening social events (after retreat) when wearing the Army service and dress uniforms or the mess and evening mess uniforms.
(4) Soldiers will carry their headgear, when it is not worn, in their hands while wearing service, dress, and mess uniforms. Soldiers are authorized storage of the headgear, when it is not worn, in the Class C uniform cargo pockets, if applicable. Soldiers must fold the headgear neatly so as not to present a bulky appearance. They may also elect to store it at the small of the back, with the bill tucked in the belt, provided there is no bulky appearance and the headgear remains hidden from view. Soldiers will not attach headgear to the uniform or hang it from the belt.
So, unless PVT Snuffy, M.A., LLB can find a loophole, you have to wear headgear outside regardless of being "under cover."
From AR 670-1, dated 15 Sept 2014:
l. Soldiers will wear headgear with the Army uniform, except under the following circumstances:
(1) Headgear is not required if it would interfere with the safe operation of military vehicles. Wearing military headgear is not required while in or on a privately owned vehicle (to include a motorcycle, bicycle, or convertible automobile), a commercial vehicle, or on public conveyance (such as a subway, train, plane, or bus).
(2) Soldiers will not wear headgear indoors, unless under arms in an official capacity, or when directed by the commander, such as for indoor ceremonial activities.
(3) Male and female Soldiers are not required to wear headgear to evening social events (after retreat) when wearing the Army service and dress uniforms or the mess and evening mess uniforms.
(4) Soldiers will carry their headgear, when it is not worn, in their hands while wearing service, dress, and mess uniforms. Soldiers are authorized storage of the headgear, when it is not worn, in the Class C uniform cargo pockets, if applicable. Soldiers must fold the headgear neatly so as not to present a bulky appearance. They may also elect to store it at the small of the back, with the bill tucked in the belt, provided there is no bulky appearance and the headgear remains hidden from view. Soldiers will not attach headgear to the uniform or hang it from the belt.
So, unless PVT Snuffy, M.A., LLB can find a loophole, you have to wear headgear outside regardless of being "under cover."
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SFC (Join to see)
I know it is SFC Willis, but I also posted that comment a year ago, when it was the most recent.
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If we're not surrounded by 3 walls, we are outdoors and should wear headgear. But if I'm the only one wearing headgear, I take mine off for uniformity's sake.
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SGT (Join to see)
SFC (Join to see), thank you for replying, but I don't get your point. CSM Maynard's question was regarding, "common stuff that ... Soldiers have told me that they have heard. Want to see what folks have been told." His question examines the fiction many of us have been handed through the years via word of mouth, and this was my contribution.
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