Posted on Aug 16, 2016
When was the last time a Senior NCO stepped in for you or you stepped in for a subordinate?
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Had this happen in Sub School. Was an E5 (Instructor) that had an E6 (Student) giving me a hard time because I was Junior. Senior Chief (E8) and the Master Chief (E9) had a little conference with him and I. Told the E6 that he was surprised that E6 would talk to HIM that way. E6 said "Never Master Chief". Master Chief said "BS" "You basically told the CO the same thing as this Petty Officer represents both of us when he is instructing." "Surprised the Petty Officer didn't jack you up then and there but he was being polite your Rank. If this shit happens again, you WILL be thrown out of class and escorted to your boat by ME!" "Get the Hell out of here!"
First time I ever had a superior stand up for me. Made me proud of my Navy.
First time I ever had a superior stand up for me. Made me proud of my Navy.
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Actually, I think you are looking at this all wrong.... Chief wants the LT to leave so he can do a little "wall to wall" counseling... That's what I would do. and when we were done it would be back to work, no further action required.
Chief doesn't want to protect the young sailor.... he wants to club him in the head without any witnesses.
Chief doesn't want to protect the young sailor.... he wants to club him in the head without any witnesses.
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LTJG (Join to see)
Chief may want to jack him up, but he's still protecting him. A little ass chewing is better than a DRB or an Article 15 NJP.
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Sgt Dan Catlin
PO1 Richard Cormier - If your NCO's are tight, they can still hold what we used to refer to as "Thump Call." The offender is taken where there are no witnesses and gets an attitude adjustment by all the NCO's. And if he complains, they back each other up. Me, hit a frail, sensitive litle Private? No, I was with ... ." Failing that, the insubordinate soldier could still be written up for insubordination. Sad when that's the only recourse, but if that's the way it is, then you have to use it.
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Perhaps there has been a time that I was unaware of, but the last time I found out about this sort of thing happening was when I was a civilian and I came to work and found my boss (the owner of the company) on his hands and knees cleaning the bathroom. I asked him if I wasn't doing it right or something and his response was "no you were doing a good job. I just thought I would help you out today since you work so hard." I was blown away, bosses don't do the grunt work. At least not in my experience... I have never forgotten that and I had the most respect for someone that didn't just tell their workers what to do but would get down there and do it with them.
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LT Charles Baird
You have had the wrong bosses because the good ones lead by example and are not afraid to get their hands dirty to help out.
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TSgt Melissa Post
LT Charles Baird - I couldn't agree more. My first supervisor told me that his job was maintenance, not me, when I needed his help on understanding or studying my CDCs to get my 5 level. I was quite surprised and spoke to an NCO one rank above him that I knew personally as well as professionally. I wasn't intending to throw him under the bus, I was just an A1C trying to figure out what he meant by that. That NCO tore my supervisor apart.
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