Posted on Dec 2, 2016
As a 29E, what RDI do I wear for this MOS? Or, do I wear my unit's DUI if I no longer have any Regimental Affiliation with my previous MOS?
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29E: Electronic Warfare Specialist
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Before I always wore my unit's DUI. However, now that EW has been absorbed into CYBERCOM, there is actually a Cyber RDI. http://www.tioh.hqda.pentagon.mil/Catalog/Heraldry.aspx?HeraldryId=17896&CategoryId=9362&grp=2&menu=Uniformed%20Services&ps=24&p=0
The purpose of this site is to provide information on United States Army heraldic entitlements; how they are displayed, and how and why it is worn.
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I saw that last night when I was doing my initial research. I would think that even with this new re-alignment I would stay with the EW Collar Device (which I really like because its in color), but now I would need to purchase the CYBERCOM RDI, and I can't seem to find anywhere that has it. Do you know where I can find the RDI for CYBERCOM?
The question I have right now is....since this is VERY NEW, would I be wrong if I just wear my DUI for a Dining Out? I can absolutely guarantee that no-one will know that I would have a new RDI and since I am no longer affiliated with Ordnance (per my ERB) I don't want to wear that branches RDI...at least this way I won't continue to get crazy looks from the Top Brass or the CSM for that part of my uniform which looks like I am missing something above my Unit awards.
Thanks for the info brother!
The question I have right now is....since this is VERY NEW, would I be wrong if I just wear my DUI for a Dining Out? I can absolutely guarantee that no-one will know that I would have a new RDI and since I am no longer affiliated with Ordnance (per my ERB) I don't want to wear that branches RDI...at least this way I won't continue to get crazy looks from the Top Brass or the CSM for that part of my uniform which looks like I am missing something above my Unit awards.
Thanks for the info brother!
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SSG(P) (Join to see) - I can confidently say this, you won't get called out because nobody knows much about EW haha. You'll probably just have to purchase online because hardly anyone has the cyber stuff.
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SSG (Join to see) - Yeah I can't find the RDI for sale for CYBERCOM anywhere yet.
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Per milSuite regarding this issue:
AR 600-82 (Regimental Affiliation Program) was rescinded and subsequent guidance published within AR 670-1 and DA Pam 670-1 (Wear and Appearance of Army Uniforms and Insignia). Guidance from DA Pam 670-1 dated 10 Apr 15 is as follows. Based on this change to regimental affiliation policy, requests to affiliate with a unit in order to wear that unit's DUI are no longer required. Soldiers may affiliate with a unit an wear the DUI based on their assignment history.
21–24. Insignia representing regimental affiliation
a. Authorization. AR 670–1 authorizes insignia used to represent regimental affiliation to consist of either the RDI or DUI. A Soldier’s Regimental affiliation using an RDI is based on a Soldier’s branch/corps/special branch as determined by PMOS or specialty. A Soldier’s Regimental affiliation using a DUI is based on a unit in which the Soldier is serving or previously successfully served. Soldiers may wear the RDI for their affiliated regiment or may wear the DUI for a unit in which they are serving or have previously successfully served based off their assignment history as indicated in their personnel record.
b. How worn. The RDI or DUI, when worn as insignia to represent regimental affiliation, are worn as outlined in paragraph 21–23.
However comma pause as you are NG:
"FYSA All,
As you know, AR 600-82 was rescinded by the new AR 670-1. However, NGR 600-82 (attached below) was not rescinded and is still in effect for ARNG soldiers (and continues to be listed as a reference in AR670-1). ARNG unit affiliation is still state-based and requires TAG approval for any out-of-state ARNG affiliations; USAR and AC unit affiliations by active ARNG soldiers, regardless of prior service, are not currently permitted.
For general SA, CMH is preparing to assume responsibility for the Army regimental system…. and will become the proponent for a new AR 600-82. We will be updating NGR 600-82 concurrently, and expect to open up affiliation for low-density branches and CS/CSS types to allow them to affiliate with their unit of assignment vice their branch/corps, clarifying the process in AR 670-1, as well as expanding the regimental system to non-combat arms units. We do not, however, anticipate any significant change to a state-based affiliation requirement."
It should be noted that NGR 600-82 attached to the site states revision date was dated 11 Oct 93, and my google-fu tells me this is still somehow current.
This was also addressed in an older post located at
https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/670-1-change-dui-or-rdi
AR 600-82 (Regimental Affiliation Program) was rescinded and subsequent guidance published within AR 670-1 and DA Pam 670-1 (Wear and Appearance of Army Uniforms and Insignia). Guidance from DA Pam 670-1 dated 10 Apr 15 is as follows. Based on this change to regimental affiliation policy, requests to affiliate with a unit in order to wear that unit's DUI are no longer required. Soldiers may affiliate with a unit an wear the DUI based on their assignment history.
21–24. Insignia representing regimental affiliation
a. Authorization. AR 670–1 authorizes insignia used to represent regimental affiliation to consist of either the RDI or DUI. A Soldier’s Regimental affiliation using an RDI is based on a Soldier’s branch/corps/special branch as determined by PMOS or specialty. A Soldier’s Regimental affiliation using a DUI is based on a unit in which the Soldier is serving or previously successfully served. Soldiers may wear the RDI for their affiliated regiment or may wear the DUI for a unit in which they are serving or have previously successfully served based off their assignment history as indicated in their personnel record.
b. How worn. The RDI or DUI, when worn as insignia to represent regimental affiliation, are worn as outlined in paragraph 21–23.
However comma pause as you are NG:
"FYSA All,
As you know, AR 600-82 was rescinded by the new AR 670-1. However, NGR 600-82 (attached below) was not rescinded and is still in effect for ARNG soldiers (and continues to be listed as a reference in AR670-1). ARNG unit affiliation is still state-based and requires TAG approval for any out-of-state ARNG affiliations; USAR and AC unit affiliations by active ARNG soldiers, regardless of prior service, are not currently permitted.
For general SA, CMH is preparing to assume responsibility for the Army regimental system…. and will become the proponent for a new AR 600-82. We will be updating NGR 600-82 concurrently, and expect to open up affiliation for low-density branches and CS/CSS types to allow them to affiliate with their unit of assignment vice their branch/corps, clarifying the process in AR 670-1, as well as expanding the regimental system to non-combat arms units. We do not, however, anticipate any significant change to a state-based affiliation requirement."
It should be noted that NGR 600-82 attached to the site states revision date was dated 11 Oct 93, and my google-fu tells me this is still somehow current.
This was also addressed in an older post located at
https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/670-1-change-dui-or-rdi
670-1 change; DUI or RDI | RallyPoint
The proposed Army uniform policy changes seem to indicate that the individual will now have the choice to wear the RDI, or through affiliation the DUI.I would personally prefer to wear my former infantry regiment's crest, but current policy prohibits me as an AG soldier.Is anyone else reading this the way I am? Edit to add: From the 2005 edition of 670-1: "“Authorization. Regimental distinctive insignia (RDI) of a design approved by the...
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Good deal!! That exactly what I read last night, so at least I know that I found the right info. I was more looking to see how others interpreted this info and how I would address this issue with my uniform on short notice prior to a Dining Out that is tomorrow night.
I seriously doubt that I will catch to much flak for wearing my BN DUI since I don't have the new CYBERCOM RDI, but according to the info you copied here and how I read it, I could just as easily wear the DUI for the Car Squadron that I was assigned to before and is in the same state and BDE.
HAHAHA....love the "google-fu" thats perfect!!
Thanks for the info brother!!
I seriously doubt that I will catch to much flak for wearing my BN DUI since I don't have the new CYBERCOM RDI, but according to the info you copied here and how I read it, I could just as easily wear the DUI for the Car Squadron that I was assigned to before and is in the same state and BDE.
HAHAHA....love the "google-fu" thats perfect!!
Thanks for the info brother!!
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