Posted on Dec 29, 2016
Cpl Joshua Caldwell
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This would make giving security clearances way to political. I do like the intent I just fear that it would be used for personal gain even more.
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Cpl Joshua Caldwell
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SSG (Join to see) the current congress is full of people will criminal convictions. We are plagued by voters who wont take the time to learn anything about the people the vote for and might as well be voting for their favorite color for all of they thought and research that the dedicate to the issues.
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Cpl Joshua Caldwell - part of the problem is the amount of miss information that is out there. How much mud is thrown around. It can be hard to find out what is really going on. We as voters need to do better.
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Cpl Joshua Caldwell
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SSG (Join to see) As voters we SUCK, we have way to many people who spend zero effort before making very important voting choices. I blame our education system, they dont teach anyone to think critically anymore, and our colleges have largely become indoctrination centers, where people who have never left school teach young adults how the system functions, as if they have any idea how anything works.
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Cpl Joshua Caldwell - or any basic civics lessons. We don't teach civics sadly.
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Having never looked into it.. I guess I just assumed that would be a prerequisite.

I mean, a 18 year old privet cant complete AIT as a rigger unless they can be issued a security clearance of secret.

Are you saying the candidate for president, a job position that will run across the most sensitive secrets in the world, is has not passed a security check BEFORE they run?
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Cpl Joshua Caldwell
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Interesting point, I went in DEP, so I am pretty sure my clearance was ok before I arrived at PISC, as a civilian my clearance was completed before I was hired. Since you need to start campaigning about a year in advance, I suspect that they could either clear or reject applicants before the voters did anything.
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Think about all the known associates of BHO. As you telling me he could get a clearance with who he used to run with? I just say BHO because he’s fresh in everybody’s mind. I can think of associates that would toss the last 3 presidents.
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SGM Erik Marquez
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SFC (Join to see) - Remember known associates only matter if you fail to disclose, there were actions involved, you are risk of blackmail from them.
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With all the known associates of BHO, you don’t think there were some conservations in there that could land a person in jail, even if the association were known? That’s for a skilled interviewer to determine, not me. A lot of people on the left like to say “Where there’s smoke, there’s fire”; well there’s an awful lot of smoke behind them closed doors, when a person won’t even reveal most of his college life (that would have to be looked into also).
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This is one that has been tossed around for Decades... and Probably one reason they don't have to pass a Clearance background Check... Most would FAIL...
I know for a fact it was suggested and even tried...
when a Local NC Representative was Elected and had to have a Security check he failed outright and the next election he was on his way to Jail...
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Cpl Joshua Caldwell
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I was surprised to find out that my local congressman (a Navy Reserve Officer) did not have a clearance, and he would most likely pass. He asked a question of my agency, and we could not answer him because he didn't have the clearance. He sure had a need to know, but no clearance to back it up. He had to hire a guy with a clearance on his staff, and that guy had to give him a vote up or vote down sort of answer.
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