Posted on Sep 9, 2014
Your contract with the military - it's one sided. Why?
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Many on here have been in the military much longer than myself, however I believe we all joined under the same pretenses.
If you serve 20 years, you earn a retirement with healthcare for the rest of your life.
That no longer rings true. You now pay for the healthcare, under go unnecessarily long wait times for care, and your retirement "package" is constantly picked at.
Still being active duty, I wonder why I should stay 20 years in a job with shrinking retirement benefits. Mention you want to leave early, the words "you signed a contract" are boasted like it holds some kind of value. Yes, I did sign a contract - and the other party keeps changing the deal.
Thoughts?
If you serve 20 years, you earn a retirement with healthcare for the rest of your life.
That no longer rings true. You now pay for the healthcare, under go unnecessarily long wait times for care, and your retirement "package" is constantly picked at.
Still being active duty, I wonder why I should stay 20 years in a job with shrinking retirement benefits. Mention you want to leave early, the words "you signed a contract" are boasted like it holds some kind of value. Yes, I did sign a contract - and the other party keeps changing the deal.
Thoughts?
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My contracts have never been one sided...I've gotten plenty out of each contract; but I worked my ass off for all of it.
If Soldiers wonder why they should stay...I'd refer them to ACAP. The military is not for everyone.
If Soldiers wonder why they should stay...I'd refer them to ACAP. The military is not for everyone.
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SSG Jacob Wiley
Will all due respect SGM, a good employer should never make it's employees question to stay or leave.
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If you think your healthcare benefits is no longer "up to par", I suggest you try using civilian healthcare insurance for a bit. Yes, you have some wait times, but the premiums you pay for your family to use Tricare is MUCH cheaper than any comparable civilian health insurance.....
BTW your retirement pay is not a "pension". It is a retainer fee. You're STILL in the Army, just on the retired rolls and no longer subject to UCMJ. Reduced pay for reduced service. But I'd also challenge you to find any "retirement" program in the civilian world that even approaches what you get from a military retirement. The grass is not always greener.....
BTW your retirement pay is not a "pension". It is a retainer fee. You're STILL in the Army, just on the retired rolls and no longer subject to UCMJ. Reduced pay for reduced service. But I'd also challenge you to find any "retirement" program in the civilian world that even approaches what you get from a military retirement. The grass is not always greener.....
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Let me ask this question - name one contract, that lasts at least 20 years, that does NOT go through changes, modifications, updates, revisions, etc.... Once we have that identified, we can compare.
Let me ask this question - name one contract, that lasts at least 20 years, that does NOT go through changes, modifications, updates, revisions, etc.... Once we have that identified, we can compare.
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SSG Aaron Peterson You've got to remember Congress sets the standards of our "contract". We as individuals don't set the contract, nor are we involved in the negotiations - chances are you'll never see that option ever come about.
While I'm thinking on it. You know, even in union contracts, the individual members do not negotiate - reps do. I think in the military's situation, you could call your congressman/woman and senator's as your contract rep's.....
While I'm thinking on it. You know, even in union contracts, the individual members do not negotiate - reps do. I think in the military's situation, you could call your congressman/woman and senator's as your contract rep's.....
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MSG Wade Huffman
SSG Aaron Peterson , I don't wish to sound rude here, but have you actually read your contract? There is nothing in it about promises beyond the term you commit to (other than your statutory MSO). There is no other promise or commitment by either party.
So far as negotiations go, what is it you would want to attempt to negotiate as an individual. Your duties and obligations, as well at those of the Government are spelled out in Title 10 USC. "whatever is decided" as you put it is the Law.
Just wondering where you are trying to go with your comment as I'm somewhat confused as to your intent.
So far as negotiations go, what is it you would want to attempt to negotiate as an individual. Your duties and obligations, as well at those of the Government are spelled out in Title 10 USC. "whatever is decided" as you put it is the Law.
Just wondering where you are trying to go with your comment as I'm somewhat confused as to your intent.
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No contract in the military is set for 20 years. The most is 8 years and that is after the soldiers has served at least 10 years. Every contract that was ever created is one sided. If it wasnt the party making the contract would not want to make it!
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