Posted on Sep 14, 2014
LTC Paul Heinlein
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This would be done to signify every grades' current level of completed Military Education? If not, why? If not Officers, why? If not Officers, why allow prior service Officers to wear it and what purpose does it serve?
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I see no reason why Officers shouldn't have one, when they go through schools such as the CCC, and i'm not too keen on what other school officers attend, but i'm sure you can gather my drift. But we should all be allowed to wear them, to signify, that we have attained that extra knowledge. PO2 Tony Casler, while I understand your sentiment of the Navy and Marine Corps doing fine without an equivalent ribbon, that would be the same as me saying that the Army does fine without a C.A.R., or the Marine Corps D.I ribbon. Each military branch has its own ribbons awarded to members who perform qualifying accomplishments while working with the branch. Each branch has it's own ribbons, to signify what a SM has accomplished within that branch.
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PO2 Tony Casler
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SFC(P) (Join to see) the Army may not have a CAR but there are several badges that serve the same purpose from what I understand. Being a combat veteran is far more noteworthy in my opinion than sitting in a classroom and taking a class that everybody else also takes. I see the NCO ribbons as being analogous to the ASR. The ASR signifies nothing that isn't already told by the fact that one is wearing an Army uniform, and likewise the NCO ribbons are just a redundant bit of fruit salad that signifies something already obvious from the rank on your sleeve/chest and hopefully by one's professionalism and dedication. When there are so many awards and they are handed out so freely that an average junior enlisted Soldier looks like a third world dictator I believe it is time to scale back a bit, not try to hand out even more.
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PO2 Tony Casler, I understand your sentiment, I however, think that the only ribbons that make a difference are the AAMs and higher, all of the Service ribbons, make no difference to me since they are given to almost everybody. I like 10 ribbons, with only 1 AAM, 1 JSAM, and 1 ARCOM, and the other 6 being service ribbons. But the difference between them is that they are just ribbons, and not Medals, the medals signify something that you have accomplished that is above and beyond what others have done. The reason I brought up the CAR and DI Ribbon, is to show that across the branches we show certain achievements differently, While we give badges for those two instances, giving a ribbon, esp for the DI badge is much the same as giving a ribbon for NCOPD schools.
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PO2 Tony Casler
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Sir, why have one at all? The Navy and Marine Corps do fine without an equivalent ribbon. It strikes me as one of the many unnecessary awards that cheapen the value of them all.
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LTC Paul Heinlein
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PO2 Tony Casler ,

Outstanding response. I concur.

But, you have now doomed me to be to be beaten up by the onslaught of the NCOs and prior service Officers.
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