Posted on Oct 28, 2017
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ROTC to 15A:

Right now I’m looking at getting out of the active army and going to school and getting my commission through ROTC. Being a forward observer and working first hand with a lot of aviatiors I have really fallen in love with the idea. Any recommendations, what exactly is the pipeline, will being prior service help me any? Everything helps!
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LTC Kevin B.
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You need to find a university with 1) an academic discipline that interests you and 2) an Army ROTC department (or has a formal relationship with another university that does have ROTC). Before getting out, you can start the process by reaching out to the ROTC departments to gauge their level of interest in you. As long as you have a clean service record and are healthy, most ROTC units will be interested. From there, you'll need to get accepted to the school and then ETS so that you can attend. You'll then eventually sign a contract through ROTC, and subsequently compete to come back onto AD as an officer. During your final year in ROTC, you'll compete for your branch and for active duty. To be competitive for Aviation, I'd recommend a quantitative academic discipline, and I'd recommend that you make really good grades. You'll need to have no vision problems.
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LTC Kevin B.
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SPC (Join to see) - Yes, your major will matter. Having a degree in underwater basket weaving won't help you get Aviation. Don't pick one that's too easy, or it will impact your competitiveness. Plus, having one in something math-heavy will make you more competitive. I'd recommend looking for any degrees with multiple courses in college-level algebra, trigonometry, calculus, statistics, etc. You can find many majors like that, such as Mathematics, Statistics, Computer Science, the various Engineering majors (Mechanical, Electrical, Chemical, Industrial, etc.), or a number of other majors that can also suffice. You'll eventually have to take an exam to see if you even qualify for Aviation branch, and it isn't easy.

I'd recommend posting something in the Aviation group, and seeing what type of degree those officers might recommend.

https://www.rallypoint.com/specialties/15a-aviation-officer
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Thank you again sir!
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LTC Kevin B.
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SPC (Join to see) - No problem at all. Best of luck to you.
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LTC Eugene Chu
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Although your ultimate goal is to return to the Army as an aviation officer, remember prerequisite steps too. Study and prepare for SAT / ACT for both ROTC and college admission. Ensure financial stability during college (i.e. ROTC cadet or GI Bill stipend is lower than active duty pay). Prepare for and perform well at ROTC Advanced Camp between junior and senior year (Unlike basic training or AIT focus of training new enlisted Soldiers, ROTC camp focus is competitive testing of college cadets for commissioning suitability and merit ranking)
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SPC (Join to see), LTC Kevin B. has the best advice on here so far. He's pretty much spot on. I'd tell you that it doesn't matter where you go to school, but you'll want to be at a major university with the ROTC program on site. The universities that "have a relationship" with an ROTC program just isn't the same. I know plenty of people that went to those and they are great, but it's just not the same. Aeronautical Engineering (AE) will help. Other brainy degrees will help you stand out, but other than AE, nothing really compares. The biggest thing about focusing on a single branch is you might not get it. You will be evaluated on your overall grades, your place on the OML (Order of Merit List, which is created by the LTC/COL in charge of the program), and physical/tactical skill (which has its own systems). If you are not in the top 10% of your class, it is likely you will not get your first choice of branch...especially if you are chasing Aviation. If you are near the bottom of your class, you may not even be selected for active duty and could end up in the reserves. It's merit based. Do well and you will get what you want. Don't do well, and you are left with the dregs of the selection process.
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Capt Sabrena Goldman
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Has anyone studied Psychology here and went in to the UPHS??
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Capt Daniel Goodman
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That's quite interesting thatnyoud asked that, I've long kicked myself for not having gone USPHS to start with, in truth, I genuinely didn't know it existed, even though my entrance exam for Army ROTF was done, I'd read much later, at one of their facilities, before idmgone USAF. I know they have Ph.D. level clinical psychology, I gather, I'm fairly certain I'd read that. If I couldve, I'd have gone civil service to do a pH.D. there, as civil servants are, in fact, allowed to apply, though getting in is obv quite rough, as its fully funded, with an obligation to do civil service afterward, I believe. Some time ago, there'd been a program there to let clinical psychologists, whether Ph.D. or Psy.D., I think, go for postdoc fellowship training to let those in the program ultimately be allowed to prescribe. Obviously, I'd read the psychiatry association had, I'd gathered, apparently been unthrilled at the thought, it was one of those scope of practice things, I'd read, I'd delved into a lot of scope of practice stuff before I became ill, I'd wanted to go for more training, possibly to have bridged to medicine, though, because of my disability, my wife and I needed to have me shut my podiatry license sevl yrs ago I'd considered doing a Ph.D. in,. E.g., pathology, as I'd always found that scientifically more to my tastes. I'd wanted also bioengineering, methematical biology, or mathematical biophysics, unfortunately, my disability has totally bollixed up every effort I've made to try. I'd also looked at a Ph.D. in data science, having originally been engineering, physics, and math, as well. I've been trying, if the rules of my disability, which are actually quite draconian, to be allowed to either tutor STEM material for students, have volunteered to tutor STEm at the church my wife and I go to, and/or also to try to volunteer using what we're hoping are approved programs I'd read of, to be allowed to assist with clinical research. I've asked for help to be allowed, we're trying, however, its clearly quite brought going, as to ask for that is obv atypical given a disability, we:re afraid. Were you inclined toward clinical psych? I'm not entirely sure if USUHS has Ph.D. or Psy.D., as i think about the whole thing, you might want to call their grad school, I seem to recall they have a toll free phone to that segment of the school. I'd known they'd added nursing, I'd been most eager to go yrs ago, when I'd been in Army ROTC, and also USAF, I just never figured on how hard getting it could actually be. If I'd known, I'd have submitted for dentistry, I didn't even know about osteopathic till I was nearly off active, and everything got totally bollixed up. If you'd care to chat further, I'd of course be most willing, if you'd wish to elaborate on your background, interests and.or ambitions at all. If you'd care to hear about any of my clinical research interests, esp. In mathematical immunology, and computational genomic signal processing, as well as the quantum neuroscience aspects of anesthetics, among other areas, I'd of course be most eager for such serious scientific discussion, many thanks, hope was of at least some interest.
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Capt Daniel Goodman
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I'd also looked at USPHS for engineering, as well, I hadn't realized they had that till too late, I'm afraid, many thanks.
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