Posted on Dec 15, 2017
How "negotiable" is AR 350-1 in regards to APFT?
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Specifically, the line "A minimum of 4 months will separate record tests for RA and AGR". Just had a nice long open discussion with the 1SG about the requirements of the reg versus the Commander's intent. He says Commander's intent of conducting a 100% APFT for the company overrides this requirement, so anyone who just had a record apft has to take another.
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Frankly the Commander can do PT tests every day, BUT a recorded AFPT is by reg suppose to be at least 4 months apart. The only qualifier I know would be if a trooper was going to a school that required a AFPT more current than 4 months before their arrival dat at school.
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SSG(P) Drew Hunnicutt
"Commanders may administer the APFT as often as they wish; however, they must specify beforehand when the results are for record. The AA and Active Guard/Reserve (AGR) Soldiers and USAR Troop Program Units (TPUs) will take the APFT at least twice each calendar year. A minimum of 4 months will separate record tests if only 2 record
tests are given. The intent is for the AA and the AGR Soldiers to take a record APFT every 6 months. Mission requirements often prevent the even spacing of record tests. Therefore, commanders are encouraged to test Soldiers for record as close to the record test window as possible."
SGM, you are correct in that the Commander can do an APFT everyday. The only requirement for the tests to be at least 4 months apart, however, is to space out the 2 test that are required yearly. A commander can give a require a record APFT every month and it would not violate the regulation.
tests are given. The intent is for the AA and the AGR Soldiers to take a record APFT every 6 months. Mission requirements often prevent the even spacing of record tests. Therefore, commanders are encouraged to test Soldiers for record as close to the record test window as possible."
SGM, you are correct in that the Commander can do an APFT everyday. The only requirement for the tests to be at least 4 months apart, however, is to space out the 2 test that are required yearly. A commander can give a require a record APFT every month and it would not violate the regulation.
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The minimum of 4 months is if only two record APFTs will be administered within a year. That is to say, a unit can not have a record APFT on 1 June and then again on 30 June and use those two APFTs for the yearly requirement. A commander can require record APFTs at a higher frequency than the regulatory requirement, just not a lower frequency (i.e. you can add too but not take away from).
TC 3-22.20
"A-8.
The commander should ensure that testing is consistent with regard to events, scoring, clothing, equipment, and facilities. Testing should be planned to permit each Soldier to perform at his maximal level and should ensure the following:
Soldiers are not tested when fatigued or ill.
Soldiers do not participate in tiring duties before taking an APFT.
Weather and environmental conditions do not inhibit physical performance.
Risk analysis is conducted."
So a record APFT probably shouldn't be administered everyday for the above stated reasons, but soldiers do not get a four month free pass between records. I once took 4 record APFTs inside a 50 day time span just due to changing units and going to schools.
TC 3-22.20
"A-8.
The commander should ensure that testing is consistent with regard to events, scoring, clothing, equipment, and facilities. Testing should be planned to permit each Soldier to perform at his maximal level and should ensure the following:
Soldiers are not tested when fatigued or ill.
Soldiers do not participate in tiring duties before taking an APFT.
Weather and environmental conditions do not inhibit physical performance.
Risk analysis is conducted."
So a record APFT probably shouldn't be administered everyday for the above stated reasons, but soldiers do not get a four month free pass between records. I once took 4 record APFTs inside a 50 day time span just due to changing units and going to schools.
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SFC Michael Hasbun
"A minimum of 4 months will separate record tests for RA and AGR:
This is not an optional guideline. You can conduct diagnostics until the cows come how, but you MUST have a minimum of four months between records. All it takes is one smart Soldier who actually reads regulations to make the whole house of cards tumble if a unit is doing the wrong thing...
This is not an optional guideline. You can conduct diagnostics until the cows come how, but you MUST have a minimum of four months between records. All it takes is one smart Soldier who actually reads regulations to make the whole house of cards tumble if a unit is doing the wrong thing...
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SSG(P) Drew Hunnicutt
SFC Michael Hasbun - Yes, the reg just changed last month. It used to say, "A minimum of 4 months will separate record tests if only 2 record tests are given." Please see the conversation on SSG Manuel's comment.
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