Posted on Feb 1, 2018
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I am a SGT (p) and have an ALC date for April. My unit is conducting two big training operations and I am only able to attend one due to my ALC date. I was just informed that my command is trying to work up a memo to push back my ALC class date. Can they do this? To my knowledge they have the personnel to fill my position while I’m in class. What can I do if anything to keep my date?
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SSG Fort Knox Nco Of The Year
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I work in BN S3 and I cover down on Schools for the BN. If your unit wants to push your ALC date, then 1, they don't care about you because everyone is replaceable and ALC is mandatory for your next promotion. 2 it is way more than a memo if you have been slotted for ALC. ALC is Da/hrc directed. It takes a 4187 signed by your 1st GO in your CoC plus a justification memo, last two NCOER's, da form 705 and 5500 if applicable, and substantiating documents that support why you can't go. I am telling you this because I am dealing with NCOPDS deferments and cancellations right now.

You need to go to school. That's the bottom line. If you don't, you are delaying your career progression. And because of the STEP program, you won't just hop in the next available class. There are tons of eligible soldiers that DA/HRC is going to fill in those seats before you get another slot
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CW2 Louis Melendez
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I agree with you brother. This is exactly what I mentioned in my post. This is ridiculous and unnecessary. The mission shouldn’t stop because of one person that is not going because of an NCOES that has been mandated by HRC/big Army
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CW2 Louis Melendez
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SGT Brown,

They will have to push that memo all the way to HRC to see if that flies at all. On top of that the entire chain of command will be involved in that silly memorandum. Therefore, I think that it is not the right move from them. There it is a reason why the Army created the STEP program. It was for this reason. To prevent units from arbitrarily manipulating the promotion system.

I find it ridiculous that units still pulling the card that “they can’t afford” to let one individual go for an NCOES. The mission never or should not stop because one person is not there.

There is not a whole lot that you can do at the unit level but keep your eyes and ears open to see if you can bring this up to somebody that read Milper Message 16-089 or the latest one in reference to this issue.
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I’m sending an NCO home from deployment to attend NCOES. Safe to say I think you’ll be fine.
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