Posted on Nov 20, 2014
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Am I the only one who feels this is completely backward, asinine, counter productive, and a microcosm of everything thats plaguing our Military. Even as a young private I could never understand the logic. Since I left conventional Army this has not been an issue(thankfully so).

Even when I would be sucking and puffing in my early days, I knew it was MY personal responsibility to improve my run, which included running after work. It used to piss me off to no end knowing I"m busting my a$$ improving on my time, while we are here slowing up a moderate run pace to accommodate pvt "couldnt care" because he could honestly care less.. Your thoughts?
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SFC (Join to see),

Does your PT leader know that unit formation runs should only occur once every 3 months? FM 7-22 paragraph 10-34 states that unit formation runs "should be performed no more than once per quarter due to the limited training effect offered for the entire unit." The other runs should be AGR (ability group runs), hill repeats, 60/120s, etc. See, even the FM agrees with you!
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MSG Wade Huffman
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Bingo! "morale runs' (yea, I know, oxymoron!) are for team building and unit morale, not for improving fitness.
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Its not about accommodating the slowest person its about the '"team" and we are only strong as our weakest link. Also it should be used to motivate the slowest person. That aside I understand where you are coming from especially if your unit decides to do alot of group runs.
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As a PLT SGT I schedule platoon level runs to build teamwork and motivate those soldiers who are not runners. However, I do brief them prior to the run that we will not go at a pace that could be considered walking because no improvement will be made from that. Furthermore, at least once a week we conduct ability group runs to allow my fast soldiers to go out and run as fast as they want. I always take the slower soldier and keep them together maintaining a suitable pace that would allow them to complete a 4-mile run in 36 minutes. At times this is very challenging because I have to speed up and slow down to be able to meet the 36 minute standard. Do we meet the standard every time? Absolutely not.

No for those soldier who continually show no concern to improve all I do is counsel them for failure to meet the unit standard of 4-milies in 36 minutes. I only counsel them if I have told them that we are conducting a 4-mile run for time in preparation for the unit 4-mile run. I also invite my soldiers to run on the weekends if they desire to improve. To no surprise nobody ever comes out to enjoy a run with the PLT SGT.
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