Posted on Jan 7, 2014
MSG Senior Counterintelligence Sergeant
17.6K
78
50
11
11
0
In order to become a Green Beret, you have to get selected in SFAS and then complete the Q-Course... in order to be assigned to Ranger Regiment, you have to complete RASP (unless something's changed recently)... in order to be assigned to 160th SOAR, you have to complete a selection process known as Green Platoon.<div><br></div><div>Since being assigned to the SOF community, I've noticed a lot of support personnel that have no business in the community, let alone the Army. &nbsp;Additionally, young Soldiers who get a SOF assignment right out of AIT become complacent by the relaxed attitude/mentality of SOF units.</div><div><br></div><div>Ultimately, my question here is: &nbsp;Do you think there should be some sort of selection/assessment process for all support personnel being assigned to SOF units?</div>
Posted in these groups: Special operations logo Special OperationsUnited states army logo Army
Edited >1 y ago
Avatar feed
Responses: 23
CSM Brigade Command Sergeant Major
7
7
0
The 160th SOAR has a selection process for ALL Soldiers. Pilots go through 3 weeks of ground training and about 6 months of Aviation Training. Support Officers go through a selection board which consists of an APFT, water survival and the 3 week ground training.

The Enlisted endure 5 weeks of "combat skills" training. Those who do not make it are reassigned. It is feasible for us to do that because we are smaller then the SF Groups and we are concentrated primarily at Fort Campbell with outstation units coming TDY or enroute. 

It does help weed out the ones who do not have what it takes to deal with the physical and mental rigor of being in a SOF unit.
(7)
Comment
(0)
Avatar small
PO2 Reserves Tnpq
7
7
0
I am Navy Logistics and know that the Seals do have a selection process for all support personal. I feel that it helps get the right people for the jobs. They also require that once you are selected you are with them for no less the 4 years.  
(7)
Comment
(0)
Avatar small
SFC Executive Commo Team
6
6
0

I spent 13 years supporting 1st and 5th SFG and they have been trying to come up with something but never put anything together.  In 1st SFG they started a week long orientation, that involved shooting moving and communicating.  However, their was no pass or fail.  If you didn't well in an event then they let your Leadership know so they were aware of where you needed more training. 


 I spent the first 13 years with Group right out of AIT and I see how you can think that it would make them complacent and relaxed.  I think that falls under the individual.  Just because an SF guy calls you by your first name doesn't mean you do it back.  Or if you see them wearing a ball cap it doesn't mean you do.  To answer your question, yes their needs to be a selection phase to ensure that SOF is getting the cream of the crop.  It is HARD to train an average Soldier to be a superstar with the high OPTEMPO that SOF has.  Great post!!!

(6)
Comment
(0)
1SG Calanski Brunson
1SG Calanski Brunson
>1 y

Like SFC Ronnie Jackson, I went to 7th SFG right after AIT and Airborne school. I spent 9 years there and left as a SSG(P). I learned to adapt to different types of situations. When I was attached to an ODA they let me become one of them and played by their rules. Once I returned back the support company it was back to the basics and being a Soldier. I learned a lot and received some of the best training in the world and would not trade it in for nothing. If a Soldiers becomes complacent he will do the same in a regular unit.


When I was coming up I earned the "S" SQI for being in group for 2 years, being airborne, and deploying with them. That is a tool not being utilized. Once you met the requirements to get the S identifier the commander must recommend approval. If you start to give out the S identifier for those SM that are good for the community it makes the pool of personnel to pull from easier.

(2)
Reply
(0)
Avatar small

Join nearly 2 million former and current members of the US military, just like you.

close