Posted on Jan 8, 2014
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The FM says you should do PRT if you are a PT failure.  You should also not be on the same program as those who are not in compliance with their table body fat percentage.  My unit is currently using a program called the military athlete.  This is a pretty intense program, but intended for those who are already great at pt and simply need the extra push to get to that 300 mark.  Also, should a Soldier be able to deny doing this program if he says he is being hurt for it?  Understanding that he is more than willing to show up at the appointed time and do what the reg. says that he must.
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SFC Josh Watson
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The remedial PT program should be one that focuses on improving a weakness and at the same time sustaining the strengths.  It shouldn't be one that is designed to get everyone a 300+, that's the PLT/SQDs job.  The remedial PT program should be designed in a way to improve the Soldier's fitness level to a point where he/she is performing satisfactorily, and can participate with his/her PLT/SQD without holding anyone else back.  Those are just my thoughts though.
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SFC Michael Hasbun
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I'd say they're pretty spot on thoughts...
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I agree with that, and so does the FM and regulations.  But when a Soldier is injured a few times from doing this (elite) program not designed for out of shape people, is it not enough?  What about when the Soldier comes up for the 2nd pt test and fails? Could he use the fact that he was not allotted the proper programs to improve according to regulations, but rather injured from it?  I am not saying it is likely, but it is possible right?  So all in all my quesiton is why would a senior leader that preaches standards and never swaying from them, put a program into effect and do you think it could backfire on him or her?
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Remedial PT should be the focus of improving a Soldiers fitness level so that he/she can participate in normal PT activities with his/her squad without holding them back. However, in most cases some see Soldiers to need remedial PT if their PT score isn't a 270 or above. In my opinion, Remedial PT should indeed be focus based PT that enables the Soldier to get better at what he/she lacks. Whether that to improve pushups because that's what they failed on the APFT, or to help that Soldier successfully pass weight and tape. Either way it is our job as NCOs to ensure the Soldiers in the remedial PT program come out with a successful turn out by helping run it and supervising.

In our Battalion remedial PT is ran from 0530-0630 (separating those that lack physical fitness and those that can't pass weight & Tape) and those Soldiers still have to participate in normal PT from 0630-0745. The hours suck but we as NCOs enforce the standard and ensure our Soldiers are there to improve. Overall it has help many Soldiers improve as they've come off of remedial PT; Whether that was because they didn't like getting up so early or because they really wanted to improve, it's a program that does work. As long as the remedial PT program benefits the Soldiers and not the command, I believe its a program for the best.
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SSG Robert Burns
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I don't think a Soldier has a right to willingly not participate in a PT program approved by the Commander.  Now whether that Commander has the authority to prescribe another PT program would be another discussion.
If it is a program out of the "norm", I think standard PT should still be made available to the Soldier.
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I could not agree more
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