Posted on Apr 18, 2018
Is is appropriate or normal for a recruiter to request copies of my civilian medical records?
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ok, so i contacted a USMC recruiter quit awhile ago. All i was looking for was to get a couple questions answered and to see what the corps has to offer. But before he could even talk to me i had to pass what he called a pre quailifaction. Everything went well. Until he asked me if i had and epi pen. i said yes and explained to him that it was only for my allergy shots and that they require me to have it for their insurance reasons. Long story short i ended up needing to get a doctors note saying that the shots are only for hey fever and nothing life threatening and also saying that the epi pen was for their insurance. Great so i get the note today. Send it to my recruiter. So here i am thinking that today i will be able to sit down with him. Talk to him about the corps see if its something that i wana do. NOPE! He calls me and says the note was good. And proceides to ask me medical questions that he had asked me last time we talked. Which was about a month ago. He asked me about prescriptions. His main worry was stuff like adderall. I told him that i had ADD and took medicine for it on and off threw out my schooling carrer. And took adderall in high school but stopped sophmore year. I am now a senior going to graduate in a month. Now mind you he asked me these questions before. And in fact asked me the same exact question. And i gave him the same answer. He didnt make it seem like a big deal. He said as long as i had been off it for atleast 2 yrs. Which i have. That i should be good. But now hes making it seem like its gona hurt me for going into the corps. He asked me what my GPA was and said that i should bust my a$$ to get it up even though its a 79.8 said i need todo this because of the adderall. And it doesnt end their. He asked if i had a inhailer i said yes. But it was pre scribed because of a little whezzing i used to have due to allergies and vary mild symptoms of astma. (never had an astma attack, never had trouble breathing, played many sports growing up and i never frantically needed it cause i couldnt breathe, was just any annoying wheeze i had from halling balls across the field or after a moto) he made it sound like this would also become a problem. He said it was going to be a tough one. And that i need to get him all of my medical records from my doctor and my allergy specailist. And said that he would send it in but doesnt no if they will accept me. My questions are this. Is this standard anyways to get him my medical records or is this only because of my medicines and such. Also do any of you think this will be a problem getting in. Or is he just trying to scare me and testing me in away. Keep in mind that i havent took the adderall in atleast 2 yrs and the in hailer for about 4. Seems like alot of work just to get some questions answered. Id hate to waste his time not sure if i wana presue the reserves or not but this is what he wants so its what he gets.
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Conner,
What your recruiter is doing is collecting all of your medical information to submit to the Dr. at MEPS for a medical read. In essence he is asking the Dr. if it is even worth sending you to MEPS or are you going to be disqualified. This saves the recruiter, Dr., and you time in knowing if you will pass the medical screening at MEPS. HIPPA rely does not apply in this situation since you are taking your medical records to the recruiter. HIPPA is for when your medical records are released by your medical provider to a third party and not to the patient. You 100% have a right to not give your medical records to the recruiter for submission to MEPS but, you will also have a 0% chance of joining the military if you don’t.
Hope this helps.
What your recruiter is doing is collecting all of your medical information to submit to the Dr. at MEPS for a medical read. In essence he is asking the Dr. if it is even worth sending you to MEPS or are you going to be disqualified. This saves the recruiter, Dr., and you time in knowing if you will pass the medical screening at MEPS. HIPPA rely does not apply in this situation since you are taking your medical records to the recruiter. HIPPA is for when your medical records are released by your medical provider to a third party and not to the patient. You 100% have a right to not give your medical records to the recruiter for submission to MEPS but, you will also have a 0% chance of joining the military if you don’t.
Hope this helps.
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Conner Fleury
Oh ok so this is standard protocall in the recruitment process then. Just makes it feel like im getting put threw alot of hoops or more hoops then normal ppl because of my circumstances.
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Sgt (Join to see)
Conner Fleury - GySgt (Join to see) is correct. The recruiter is doing is job to ensure that you are medically qualified to enlist. If you are not qualified for medical reasons, it is better to find that out now.
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Conner Fleury
Just seems like alot todo off the bat considering im not sure if i even want todo it. And have some questions i need answered before i make the commitment. Seems like more of a waste of to put me threw all this then to take 10 min answer my questions and then put me threw this.
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Sgt (Join to see)
Conner Fleury - Conner, the recruiter is doing his job. If you are going to join the military, expect to do many things that you might not like or agree with, and the same thing applies to some civilian jobs. During my civilian career, I was subject to random drug tests. I had two tests a week apart, and three within a month. Our internet use was also closely monitored. Even knowing the policy, plenty of folks were still fired for drug use or going to inappropriate internet sites.
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Yes-Yes-Yes- would you rather he filled you head with dreams of money and those snappy uniforms, before he dumps you? Every minute of his time costs Uncle Sam- if he can do a quick scan- think he can tell you Yes, Maybe or No. You have/had allergies- that required a drastic treatment- epi pen. 1. It's damn hard to get you treatment outside an FOB or in a foreign land if you don't have an epi pen. 2. Would your corpsman/ship/station have a supply of epi pens or are you just special? So we will fly at no cost to you an epi pen around the world every time you needed it? Bottom line- it required a waiver- which now you both knew- and he could tell you how to get it started w/o wasting time.
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Conner Fleury
I dont need the epi pen tho. I take allergies shots only to get some relief from hey fever. The epi pen is only needed because the people that give them to me require me to have it just in case. Other then that i leavr it in my truck and dont touch it or need it until i go back. That is why i needed a note. And im looking to go reserves so i wouldn't be over seas. I just feel like the hole process is screwy because all i want is some questions answered before i decide weather or not its for me or not. And if its for my kind of lifestyle. But its what hes putting me threw before we can talk. Just seems like he would be wasting more time if i decided that i didnt wana do it. With all weve gone threw now. Rather then him take 10min to answer any questions i have and be able to make a move based off that.
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SGM Bill Frazer
In case you didn't know, our USMC reserve unit sends people in groups of 2 to the entire company on overseas deployments, the unit has been deployed 3 times in 12 yrs. Maybe you need to rethink joining
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Conner Fleury
Ik that. And i am prepared to have todo that if the time were to ever come. Not that i want to but i am preparing me and my business for the worst and hoping for the best. Im just saying that if i ever need more treatment i would be able to because id be state side. My dr also said that they do have doctors on bases over seas that i could continue treat ment if need be.
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He's doing his job. With what you've named you have a diminished chance of getting in. Unless he wants you to go to MEPS, he's doing a "paper case" by sending your documents to the MEPS Dr. He will either make a determination, or say he wants to see you. He may request a second opinion via a consult with a Dr. outside of MEPS. It depends on your MEPS Dr. Some will do a "paper case" with your documents, and others want to see you and maybe even an outside Dr. Some are more strict than others also, but they all follow MEPCOM procedures. Without this advance preparation, you would likely get pulled from the physical and sent home as temporarily disqualified. Then you would do what he's having you now do, and go back to MEPS. The other scenario is you eventually clear Medical and swear in, provided all else works out. Your records must be treated as Confidential by all parties at or external to MEPS. Without this extra step it is like treating you like pizza dough, throw you against the wall (MEPS) and see if it sticks. That's a waste of time and money by all parties, and it could get you disqualified for life. You may be anyway, but at least your Recruiter is taking all the right steps. I'd give you a better than 50% chance if all you have said is true and there is nothing else. It all comes down to how strict the Dr. is. Follow your Recruiter's advice.
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