Posted on Sep 10, 2018
Was just notified i'm being looked at for QMP anyone have advice to help?
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So one crazy situation is i'm currently being re classed to an MOS that is currently hurting for my rank and I have orders already to report after the board is convened. Does any of this help my chances of not being selected? Also would anyone have a packet, I read there's a packet for submitting a rebuttal.
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Go see legal. They can help you draft a letter and put together a strong defense. I know from experience.
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SFC (Join to see)
I’m gonna need it, the ncoer that was given was poorly written and has no evidence to back up their claims. I hope the reviewers use some logic. They put no for sharp but I never received any punishment of anything for it. Their answer also is vague as to why it was no. Even my NCO who was in charge of me didn’t want to put it on ther but was told he had too. Downer to this whole thing is I’m currently at school changing my MOS and it’s going to be for nothing if I get QMP, it’ll be a waste of army money and on top of that I’ll arrive to my new duty station just to start out processing.
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MSG Dan Castaneda
SFC (Join to see) - I too got a bad NCOER due to unforeseen issues. However, a lawyer at legal drafted the letter for me and basically guided me through the process. I submitted two letters. One to the evaluation branch at HRC and one to the QMP board. Evaluation branch accepted my letter and replaced my NCOER with a memo of non rated time. The QMP board did not accept my explanation and gave me six months to be out of the Army. With the results of the QMP board HRC also issued a MILPER message stating that if the document that triggered the QMP board had "since" been removed from your records by HRC that I would be given one last appeal. In my case it had, so I submitted my last appeal and was removed from the QMP list.
From my experience, the QMP board will not allow you to stay in with that bad NCOER. You have to petition to evaluation branch to remove it. You will need letters of recommendation from your COC at that time, and others to vouch for you. Good luck.
From my experience, the QMP board will not allow you to stay in with that bad NCOER. You have to petition to evaluation branch to remove it. You will need letters of recommendation from your COC at that time, and others to vouch for you. Good luck.
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Alright, may I ask how long did it take for them to update your NCOER to non rated when you submitted the letter? I'm meeting with legal next Wednesday.
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MSG Dan Castaneda
SFC (Join to see) - I just sent you a message. Go see legal. They can help you go through the process. I could have never done this alone.
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Unfortunately, your Reclass will probably be suspended until the board makes its decision. Off the top of my head, I believe your AEA code will be adjusted to preclude any movement.
There's no packet specifically, just a letter to the president of the board plus any supporting documents for the board to consider.
There's no packet specifically, just a letter to the president of the board plus any supporting documents for the board to consider.
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I understand. Once you are notified of your review you are supposed to be stabilized until it's complete. Since a Reclass is typically accompanied by tdy enroute, your assignment should be deleted.
If you contact me by email [login to see] I will look up the specifics of your case if you like.
If you contact me by email [login to see] I will look up the specifics of your case if you like.
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SFC (Join to see) - Sorry forgot to mention, I called transition and I will still continue on to my assignment after my reclassification course. So that's at least a positive, not sure I could sit out my time in Fort Benning. It'll be fun seeing my new unit and letting them know I won't be there long.
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You have to submit the rebuttal and get notified that you are being retained. It might help to include that but I don't know what you came up on QMP for.
I came up on QMP end of 2016 because I hadn't gone to SLC in 3 years after promoting - however that was due to deferring it due to my daughter's medical issues.
I wrote a memo about why I should stay in and what led to me deferring SLC. I got letters of support from current and past leaders. I got letters from her current medical team and her doctor when I was at Riley. For mine I included the ATTRS that showed why I deferred and the deferment paperwork.
I supposedly got notified October 2016 - but I nor my Army Element leadership saw anything until November. In fact, the Army Element deputy commander got an email the day of my daughter's double nephrectomy and then told me after we got out of the hospital. He showed me the memo and it was dated October 2016 yet I reenlisted in November 2016. They extended the time I needed to reply if I would rebut or not. Then I had til the end of January to rebut it. I think the board was in Mar or April last year. So does it change every year when they hold it?
I came up on QMP end of 2016 because I hadn't gone to SLC in 3 years after promoting - however that was due to deferring it due to my daughter's medical issues.
I wrote a memo about why I should stay in and what led to me deferring SLC. I got letters of support from current and past leaders. I got letters from her current medical team and her doctor when I was at Riley. For mine I included the ATTRS that showed why I deferred and the deferment paperwork.
I supposedly got notified October 2016 - but I nor my Army Element leadership saw anything until November. In fact, the Army Element deputy commander got an email the day of my daughter's double nephrectomy and then told me after we got out of the hospital. He showed me the memo and it was dated October 2016 yet I reenlisted in November 2016. They extended the time I needed to reply if I would rebut or not. Then I had til the end of January to rebut it. I think the board was in Mar or April last year. So does it change every year when they hold it?
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Maybe I did know that...that does sound familiar now. But that is what I did - and it was kind of a pain but I have to stay in until retirement for my daughter. TRICARE is a pain in the ass sometimes but I haven't had to pay a hospital bill yet in 4 years of hospital admissions, ER visits, home health, etc. Just a few copays off base which aren't much since she gets Medicaid too.
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yeah I’m gonna have 15 years come February. It’ll be sad to do all this time and be kicked out for one poorly written NCOER.
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