Posted on Oct 15, 2018
Entry-level Counterintelligence Agent Position?
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After reading through a few months old Reddit post I noticed that a thread there was semi-deleted but by some simple deduction I was able to piece together what the original poster had said.
Apparently, he had some sort of insider information that the counterintelligence agent position in the army would become an entry-level position.
Immediately after figuring this out and noticing that the post was 8 months old I decided to go to the Army's website to see for myself. And, yes it had been changed to ENTRY!
Originally I wanted to work CID in the Army for a few years now after learning about their entry-level pilot program, however, I've been held back trying to get my degree.
I am nearing graduation and it's looking like I won't have that 3.0 GPA CID wants, but based off of the information I've gathered from goarmy.com and a recruiter I've been emailing I should be able to qualify for CI Agent position which is wonderful news to me as it is one of my dreams to work counterintel as an 1811.
I was wondering if anyone had any insights into this change or the nature of working counterintelligence for the Army? From the looks of the qualifications, I am sceptical of the nature of the job at the entry level. So I'm here to ask the experts if they have any insider information in regards to this "new" position.
Here are the qualifications from GoArmy:
Entry Level Requirements:
U.S. citizenship
20 years of age or older
High school degree or equivalent
No record of conviction by court-martial or Article 15 proceedings
No felony arrests or convictions
Eligibility for a Top Secret (TS) security clearance
A Valid driver’s license
No physical limitations and no history of mental or emotional disorders
Normal color vision
Seems too good to be true!
Apparently, he had some sort of insider information that the counterintelligence agent position in the army would become an entry-level position.
Immediately after figuring this out and noticing that the post was 8 months old I decided to go to the Army's website to see for myself. And, yes it had been changed to ENTRY!
Originally I wanted to work CID in the Army for a few years now after learning about their entry-level pilot program, however, I've been held back trying to get my degree.
I am nearing graduation and it's looking like I won't have that 3.0 GPA CID wants, but based off of the information I've gathered from goarmy.com and a recruiter I've been emailing I should be able to qualify for CI Agent position which is wonderful news to me as it is one of my dreams to work counterintel as an 1811.
I was wondering if anyone had any insights into this change or the nature of working counterintelligence for the Army? From the looks of the qualifications, I am sceptical of the nature of the job at the entry level. So I'm here to ask the experts if they have any insider information in regards to this "new" position.
Here are the qualifications from GoArmy:
Entry Level Requirements:
U.S. citizenship
20 years of age or older
High school degree or equivalent
No record of conviction by court-martial or Article 15 proceedings
No felony arrests or convictions
Eligibility for a Top Secret (TS) security clearance
A Valid driver’s license
No physical limitations and no history of mental or emotional disorders
Normal color vision
Seems too good to be true!
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Counterintelligence
35L: Counterintelligence (CI) Agent
Criminal Investigator
CID Special Agent
Recruiter
Counterintelligence 35L: Counterintelligence (CI) Agent Criminal Investigator CID Special Agent Recruiter
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Yes, the CI MOS is opening to entry-level Soldiers on a trial basis in order to help with the recruiting problems. The first CISAC class with entry level Soldiers is set to begin next month I believe.
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No because the finalized critical task list for 10 level (initial entry) has not yet been published. Likely you will mostly be learning/shadowing senior agents at first. Thing is, this was not an entry level MOS for a reason. Maturity and experience in the military were key to coming into the MOS which is why you needed to be an E4/E5 in the past. However, the ICOE Commanding General made the call as a last ditch effort for recruiting. I can tell you this, please sign up if you are willing to take the challenge, just know you *may* have an uphill battle dealing with many seasoned/NCO agents who will not be used to having lower enlisted around. We are also losing a lot of our senior ranks in FORSCOM units to make room for the lower enlisted apprentice agents, so there may be some animosity.
That being said, if that doesn't effect you, I believe it to be a very rewarding MOS, and if you are looking to go FBI or another 1811 position someday, Army CI does look good on a resume--I know for a fact. Good luck.
That being said, if that doesn't effect you, I believe it to be a very rewarding MOS, and if you are looking to go FBI or another 1811 position someday, Army CI does look good on a resume--I know for a fact. Good luck.
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Rodriquez Washington
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Thank you, transitioning to an 1811 position is definitely the goal after the Army! I'm joining the army for the challenge so the senior agents won't get me down if they're hard on me, honestly, it'll just make me better! I'm not in the Army yet so I don't really understand the protocals but why would they get rid of senior agents and replace them with younger inexperienced ones when they need as many agents as they can get right now?
Thank you, transitioning to an 1811 position is definitely the goal after the Army! I'm joining the army for the challenge so the senior agents won't get me down if they're hard on me, honestly, it'll just make me better! I'm not in the Army yet so I don't really understand the protocals but why would they get rid of senior agents and replace them with younger inexperienced ones when they need as many agents as they can get right now?
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Rodriquez Washington - Because we are not being alloted anymore agent slots. We have enough agent/personnel positions, the problem has been filling those positions. My own belief is that there are many things we have not done in terms of recruitment efforts in CI, but as I said, the ICOE CG decided to solve the problem (at least temporarily) by allowing entry level agents. However, since we aren't getting anymore slots (which are rank-specific), we need to convert existing slots to be E1-E4 (lower enlisted).
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Rodriquez Washington
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Ah, I get it now. Thank you for answering so many of my questions! You have been a big help.
Ah, I get it now. Thank you for answering so many of my questions! You have been a big help.
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In the 1980's started out as a Spanish Traffic Analyst/Linguist, Then a Elint Analyst/Instructor. When I left Active Duty and joined the Guard I became a Portuguese/Spanish CI Agent. The Skills I learned helped me getting hire as an 1811. I am with DHS now and finishing out my last 3 years before I retiree. If you are planning to be any 18 series. Being a CI Agent will give you a leg up.
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Rodriquez Washington
Thank you for your response! Your story was very inspirational. Once I'm done with school in about 2 months I will be heavily considering this position in the army.
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Rodriquez Washington
Would you know if the guard still had the CI position and if they were doing the same program as the army?
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The National Guard has CI agent positions. They receive the same training as their active duty counter-parts.
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I agree. I made it through the process with several 1811 agencies before I ultimately decided on a state agency with CA DOJ/CBI (it was better benefits/location for my family and I). They all told me (in one way or the other) that my military CI experience was a huge bonus.
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It's not new, just being opened to entry level because they are critically under strength. The Army was having difficulty filling all the school seats from in service recruiting. They did the same thing with SF years ago as well.
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