Posted on Dec 4, 2018
How would I start the process of switching branches from Army NG to the USMC?
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i have not done MOS training yet because I am a Slip opp BCT last summer then MOS training this coming summer
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Being that you are split opp you are not MOS Qualified. I would assume you still drill with your local RSP unit and report to your recruiter? If this is the case you need to talk with you first line leader, I would not get your hopes up though, they have to release you and then you can work with a Marine Recruiter. Have you talked a Marine Recruiter yet to verify you would be eligible for enlistment? I would start there before you muddy up any water.
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I think SPC Wagner has given you great advice, however, I am curious why the change from NG to Marines? I take it you went to BCT during your junior and senior year. I can tell you one thing for sure unless things have changed, your Army BCT will not be recognized by the Marines and you will most likely be reduced to E-2 if not E-1. As far as release. your National Guard Unit has no obligation to release you from your contractual obligation. So back to my original question.... why the switch?
Your enlistment thus far, likely cost your NG unit around $50.000 or more. They probably will release you because they know if they refuse it will just make matters worse and the fact that you will be going from reserve to active duty will practically guarantee an approval of conditional release.
If you looked into your options with the Active Army, you would be classified as a "glossary prior service", as such you would be treated just like a non-prior service applicant and would have "all" enlistment options and the benefits that come along with each one opened to you (provided your qualified) and you would be shipped direct to your MOS training after graduation. So if you decided you wanted a different MOS with an Airborne Option or Guaranteed Station of Choice, chances are the Army could make that happen. "Now" is the time that all the new open MOS training slots (for June grads) are loaded on the MEPS data base, so chances are you would have your pick of a guarantee of MOS training in just about any field your are qualified. Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to dissuade you from the Marines, I am just letting you know your options.
If you check my profile you will see that I was a recruiter for over ten years , I worked at MEPS for two years and I was a unit administrator in a reserve unit for three years, so I have a fairly good idea of how the process works.
What ever you decide- "Thank you for serving".... I wish you..........ALL THE BEST.
Your enlistment thus far, likely cost your NG unit around $50.000 or more. They probably will release you because they know if they refuse it will just make matters worse and the fact that you will be going from reserve to active duty will practically guarantee an approval of conditional release.
If you looked into your options with the Active Army, you would be classified as a "glossary prior service", as such you would be treated just like a non-prior service applicant and would have "all" enlistment options and the benefits that come along with each one opened to you (provided your qualified) and you would be shipped direct to your MOS training after graduation. So if you decided you wanted a different MOS with an Airborne Option or Guaranteed Station of Choice, chances are the Army could make that happen. "Now" is the time that all the new open MOS training slots (for June grads) are loaded on the MEPS data base, so chances are you would have your pick of a guarantee of MOS training in just about any field your are qualified. Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to dissuade you from the Marines, I am just letting you know your options.
If you check my profile you will see that I was a recruiter for over ten years , I worked at MEPS for two years and I was a unit administrator in a reserve unit for three years, so I have a fairly good idea of how the process works.
What ever you decide- "Thank you for serving".... I wish you..........ALL THE BEST.
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It doesn't hurt to ask but if the state spent money on you already (and they have). They are going to tell you probably about a minimum service requirement before they will sign a conditional release. Some states stipulate that once you start your training it's a two year wait from the end of AIT before they will consider a conditional release. It might not be the case in your state so it doesn't hurt to ask about it. Agree with the other advice to speak with a Marine Recruiter first before you even ask about a conditional release because if the Marines won't take you.......the fact that you told your NG unit your basically not interested in 11 Series and want to leave already is going to cause them to steer some opportunities in another direction that otherwise might have come to you.
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SPC Erich Guenther
SFC Joseph McCausland - Also on the OSUT program. It is as you described but Nephew went through it in 2007. Still very similar to 1982. They did pull forward a few of the Infantry specific MOS topics into the first 8 weeks but only a few. After the first 8 weeks they give everyone a weekend pass and call it Family Day.........then for the remaining 4 weeks the real infantry stuff kicks in. So majority of the 11 Series course is actually after the 8 week point. Also the 14th week is for CIF turn-in and Barracks cleanup, remedial PT testing and remedial CTT mostly from my observation of my Nephews cycle in 2007. They removed Drill and Ceremony, replaced Hand to Hand, still have rifle and bayonette training, still have pugil stick training, still have Eagle Tower. They added IED identification, Road blocks, jujitsu or Combatives, and some other war specific stuff.
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SFC Joseph McCausland
SPC Erich Guenther - Thanks, I can see that a lot of changes have been made since my time in service.
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SPC Erich Guenther
SFC Joseph McCausland - Yeah I was surprised but in 2007, Infantry OSUT still had 60% of the content it had in 1982, they replaced the other 40%-45%. It's still pretty close to what it was. They didn't make it any easier though you will hear some vets say otherwise. The combatives sucks the energy out of you a lot more than the Hand to Hand combat ever did. Also the technology has advanced, in the 1980's they were just starting to convert to electronic ranges. Sand Hill now uses indoor electronic ranges pretty heavily now. In 1982 it was primarily outdoors for classes and instruction......no longer. Same with AAS school at Fort Campbell........went back there for a reunion in 2009. They have really nice indoor classrooms, indoor plumbing (no outhouses). A steel reinforced rapell tower that doesn't shake as much as the all wooden one (heh-heh), etc. Obstacle course is hidden from public view now as well at Ft Campbell..........no more public jeering at newbies doing the AAS Obstacle course. Physically both are a little tougher though. Ah, and Oh yeah.........the old cattle trucks now at Fort Benning are pimped out. A/C, naugahyde seats, tinted windows, nice semi-cab pulling them. The old truck trailers that would roast you in the summer with the raw wood insides that would give you some pretty bad slivers.......gone now. I remember those in August 1982 they had to pull in the wash rack every so often to hose down the troops inside via the cattle slats in the walls to prevent heat exhaustion. They can't have transport that piss poor these days.
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