Posted on Dec 9, 2018
SPC Woodrow Luttrell
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Why would a soldier be given additional counseling for writing a rebuttal in the remarks section of a counseling statement?
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CAPT Kevin B.
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It's a matter of how bad do you want to find out. Respectful rebuttal is just that. Both sides are in the record. At some point if/when Upline reads the stuff, they either care or don't care. However if the rebuttal is snide, demeaning, etc., then you are begging for additional counseling. Counseling sheets are like the internet. Stuff hangs around and resurfaces when it will do the most damage. Don't set yourself up for damage. The best thing is respect. If that causes more paper to be generated, then you have an opportunity to go upline yourself through whatever redress avenues the Command has in place. From my viewpoint of having several CO jobs, two pieces of paper like that floating up has me dinging the SEL to sort out the petty tit for tat that's going on because almost invariably, something else is going on. There's always two sides, but the senior NCO community really wants to keep this stuff in house and I support that 200%. I"d say most of this stuff boils down to miscommunication, got up on the wrong side of the bed, whatever. Neither "story" is necessarily accurate, and Grow Up Pills are administered as needed. I could care less about the occasional bogie, but don't make a habit out of generating paper. That tells me something else.
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SPC Woodrow Luttrell
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The question concerns a battle buddy. During APFT he was stopped with time left and told by the grading NCO that he passed his sit-ups. Then recieved a negative counseling for not passing that portion. The soldier holding his feet counted until time was called but the NCO dis not. The soldier was threatened with an addition negative counseling if he wrote anything in the remarks section.
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SFC Marc W.
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That's better. The section where the Soldier signs literally says "Individual Counseled Remarks", that is for them to put whatever relevant remarks into. It doesn't change the counseling, but it does at least show the Soldier's side when it's reviewed. I'd let the counselor write another counseling, then show it to the next higher up and see what they say. It's literal pettiness.
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SFC Marc W.
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That's a big question with very little detail.
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