Posted on Jan 16, 2019
SSG Dennis Mendoza
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Is the Marine Corps Corporal's course for and E4 or and E5 promotion?
I have a former Marine in my team that re-edited his corporal's course certificate to say Marine Corps NCO basic leadership course, so he can get promoted to Sergeant E5 in the US Army.
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GySgt Retired Marine
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There is a Corporals Course for professional military education requirements as a E-4 which in theory is supposed to be a check in the box as one of several requirements for selection and promotion to E-5. However, if he changed a document with the intent to mislead the chain of command and "fraud" his way up to the next grade, do we really want him getting promoted? There are a few UCMJ charges this falls under.
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CSM Richard StCyr
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Don't know about the course equivalency for the corporals course verses WLC / BLC ( see your S-1)but the "re-edited" part of the conversation is an eye catcher, as was a follow on thread about altering or converting test line scores.
You can't just rewrite (edit) your certificates or convert your test scores to match other services verbiage. That's fraud and falsifying documents and is punishable under the UCMJ. Also not sure about the Marines but the Army schools send a copy of your 1059 to HRC so it's pretty easy to see if the certificate doesn't jive with the 1059. I'm sure the Marines have something similar as the Airforce and Navy processed documents in a manner similar to the Army when I worked at DSWA.
Since this knucklehead belongs to you, you should counsel them to cease and desist in any creative editorial work on their records, see your PSG / COC and have them take a hard look to see what if any other military documents this fine young American may have applied their creative writing efforts to.
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No..... Cpl's course is not equivalent to WlC/BLC. Sgt's course is equivalent... Also how did he edit his certificate? I completed Cpl course over a decade ago but there was no way to edit it.

Here are the requirements for each rank. When I switched over I had to go to WLC because Cpl's course wasn't equivalent to pick up Sgt.


https://www.hqmc.marines.mil/Portals/133/PME%20Reqs%20by%20Grade%20Chart.pdf
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SSG Dennis Mendoza - Yes I'm almost positive he already has it. The recruiter requested mine when I switched over to the Army in 2008. I couldn't even go to MEPS until they received the records and HRC determined my rank. But I would have him fill out the request if he stats he does not have his records they will even email it to an official .mil email which I also received years ago. If not I would have S-1 request it.
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SSG Dennis Mendoza - Side note are you a 13p? one of my best buds Segerson was a 13p.
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SSG Dennis Mendoza
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SFC(P) (Join to see) same thing with his lines scores 8m sceptical about it cause I asked him for his packet from when he in-process I wanted to see his REDD report with his lines scores because he said he had higher than what was on his ERB, one day he comes up with a memo with lines scores that will get him about any MOS in the Army. He was an admin Marine so he knows his way on typing up memos.
I'm just a bit suspicious on his actions.
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SFC(P) (Join to see) no I was a 13B/25B/currently came back active duty last year and had to reclassified to 13m
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