Posted on Jan 24, 2014
Should Special Forces & Spec. Ops. be exempt from certain Army Standards?
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In your opinion, do you believe these groups should have the right to be more lax? If so, with which standards should they be given privilege to waive? If you believe all standards should be followed regardless, have you honestly made proper on-the-spot corrections toward any of these members?
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Of course not! We should adjust the Army to adhere to Special Forces and Spec. Ops. standards. Give every soldier the equal opportunity to look like A or B :)
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1LT Rachel Washburn (A) she was in my last unit's brigade cultural support team. Also former Philadelphia Eagles cheerleader. Airborne, Air Assault. Overall she's a really nice person. (Rank according to last I knew while we were in Afghanistan). All that jazz aside if the Army wants us to blend in with our surroundings then yes I agree every soldier should have the opportunity to look A or B. Then again our body sizes, all the gear, and carrying something other than an AK-47 sort of make us stand out like a sore thumb so I don't see how the beard will help, same goes with the headdress.
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there mission is different which requires them to operate and do certain things and be a certain way such as grow beards and blend in so yeah that is why they fall under socom not forscom
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SGT Richard H.
CW2 (Join to see) In the case of beards, etc., "blending in" isn't so much about making the other guys mistake us for them, but rather making them identify with us by having a common social standard.
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I have had the privilege to work with some of the SOF community. You will never find a more ready unit anywhere. As for standards? If their mission dictates a full beard and never using your last name or rank and they need to stay in that mind set then so be it. WE as NCOs should focus more on the Soldiers in our ranks and the standards falling year to year than those that put their lives in harms way daily and rarely get the limelight.<div><br></div>
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We are absolutely upheld to the standards of AR670-1, Unless there is an operational requirement to deviate. If that is the case, we have a written order from an 0-5 or higher.<div>When you say standards, do you mean just 670-1 standards, or are you talking all Army standards.. From my experience, my team is required to meet all Army standards, whether it be PT, 670-1, Counseling, NCOER, NCOPD, marksmanship, UPL, DUI, Military drivers license, care of equipment, accountability (personnel and equipment).. you name it.</div><div><br></div><div>I have experienced both sides of the fence, and I will tell you first hand the average Special Forces Soldier takes standards very serious. In all aspects of our work. I feel this is what separates SF Soldiers from a lot of other Soldiers in our ranks. The level of responsibility that a SSG has in SF requires him to take standards personal, because if we deviate on the standards then we have the possibility for a National or Strategic level effect. Most Soldiers do not have this level of responsibility as a young SGT or SSG. </div><div><br></div><div>The bottom line is, A standard is a standard... </div><div><br></div><div>vr</div><div>SFC Smith</div>
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