Posted on Mar 12, 2019
What can I do if I have been flagged for adverse action but I'm not sure why?
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I was flagged for adverse action. I haven’t been counseled or read an article 15. I work in the s1 shop and there’s no flags in the files for me. No one on the floor flagged me so it was my OIC. My commander and OIC often do things under the table without the correct documentation.
I posted before that I was being recommended for chapter after failing my second APFT. The second APFT by regulation isn’t supposed to count but they are still pushing the chapter. I’ve reached out to everyone I could and they’ve reached out to my commander to tell them that the chapter would not go through but they’re still pushing it. Ever since then they have been tormenting me, cancelling my baby appointments to attend SFL TAP, cancelling my behavioral health appointments (to deal with this stressful situation) no authoritzing my BAH to move out of the barracks and now I have a random adverse action flag. I’m not sure what to do next I’ve been to IG countless times. I’ve been to legal, I’ve been to my CSM. Everytime I post here I here “suck it up” or “stop crying” but I honestly feel like I am being mistreated. Soldiers in my company have had BOTH DUI’s and failed drug tests and that soldier is still in the army. One got in trouble for adultery and failed drug test, another got arrested for domestic violence, purposely hit someone with a car, committed adultery, lied about rape, article 15 for lying about going to pt to the 1SG and they are not kicking any of these soldiers out.
I promise there are no underlying issues with me only
The fact that I’m trying to defend myself and I’m doing it respectfully.
I posted before that I was being recommended for chapter after failing my second APFT. The second APFT by regulation isn’t supposed to count but they are still pushing the chapter. I’ve reached out to everyone I could and they’ve reached out to my commander to tell them that the chapter would not go through but they’re still pushing it. Ever since then they have been tormenting me, cancelling my baby appointments to attend SFL TAP, cancelling my behavioral health appointments (to deal with this stressful situation) no authoritzing my BAH to move out of the barracks and now I have a random adverse action flag. I’m not sure what to do next I’ve been to IG countless times. I’ve been to legal, I’ve been to my CSM. Everytime I post here I here “suck it up” or “stop crying” but I honestly feel like I am being mistreated. Soldiers in my company have had BOTH DUI’s and failed drug tests and that soldier is still in the army. One got in trouble for adultery and failed drug test, another got arrested for domestic violence, purposely hit someone with a car, committed adultery, lied about rape, article 15 for lying about going to pt to the 1SG and they are not kicking any of these soldiers out.
I promise there are no underlying issues with me only
The fact that I’m trying to defend myself and I’m doing it respectfully.
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Posted 5 y ago
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If there is an APFT chapter pending, and there are no counselings about it, plus what ever other documents are missing (and it sounds like there may be missing documents), Legal is going to kick that packet back down. It will be rejected. Of course, your unit will just restart it. Also, just because your command cancelled your behavioral health appointments doesn't mean you can't do an unannounced visit to express your stress. If, at each level higher you go and there is no resolve, then keep going higher.
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I would recommend, like other leaders have suggested, speak with the IG. But you MUST have documented proof to your allegations of wrong doing. While you point out other wrongs, you may not be aware of the consequences. Although being in the S1, I find that hard to believe. It is your right to know what the flagging action is for. If it's for failing your APFT a counseling statement should have been done. Any flagging action requires that the Soldier know and understand the why, what, and where. The Leader is also responsible to follow up to eventually lift the flag. Unfortunately, many leaders forget the basics. Mentorship has gone to the wayside. IF your unit is as bad as you say, use your open door policy to speak with the CSM/SGM of your higher echelon. IF that does not work, file a Congressional. The type of behavior going on in your unit, as you describe it, needs to be known. Soldiers and those leaders ignoring that type of horrible behavior needs to be punished. For any Leader to say "Suck it up" is wrong. While we are on this to mentor Soldiers and allow Soldier to ask questions, we as leaders, are not here to criticize. We can suggest an action based on what you are stating. If you need to talk, DM me.
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well - I am going to be that NCO, You failed an APFT, had you not failed the APFT, you would not be in the predicament you are in now. Second, the regulations state that the second test is to be administered within 90 days by agreement between you and command, but NOT to exceed 90 days. so, if that 90 day window was closing, you HAD to take the APFT for record whether you agree or not. Third, the day you failed your APFT, a flag and a chapter packet would have occurred.
So, while I have empathy and sympathy for your situation, I cannot but say, this is a problem that you created.
So, while I have empathy and sympathy for your situation, I cannot but say, this is a problem that you created.
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SSG Robert Perrotto
PV2 (Join to see) - Again I sympathize, but you brought this on yourself. why did you fail the first one? Had you not failed it, (individual physical fitness is a responsibility of the Soldier), you would not be in this situation.
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SSG Robert Perrotto
So - let me get this straight, cuz some stuff is not adding up. Were you pregnant for the first APFT? if not, then YOU failed to meet the requirements, thus putting yourself into this situation. Yes - I was a hard NCO, and I firmly believe in accountability, responsibility, and consequences. So, now the Army is going to carry your sorry ass until such time as you can take an APFT, and that FLAG is going to stay put until you pass it. Another thing, as I re read your post, you work in S-1, and you are utilizing your access to violate other Soldiers privacy. This is not a good thing, what goes on between those Soldiers and Command is not your business, and I would be real careful in the future regarding this.
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PV2 (Join to see)
SSG Robert Perrotto you’re literally missing the whole entire point. I WAS PREGNANT SO THE TEST DOES NOT COUNT. BUT THEY ARE COUNTING IT. I understand my flag stays but a chapter for 2 failed apft is erroneous because I was pregnant for the second.
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