Posted on Mar 18, 2019
Standing order for battalion of no drinking and daily evening formation in ASUs. Is this authorized?
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I'll be blunt, I like my family time. This affects me and my personal time. I don't drink at all. Some soldiers recently made a poor decision and ended up with their car in a secure area where a death of one of them was involved. They were not in my company and I had no way of knowing they needed a ride if and when they did. Yet the entire battalion now has to deal with every day inspection in ASUs in formation every night for the next two weeks. Can anything be done about this form of mass punishment? Or am I just a S#!tb@g who needs to know his place in the unit and keep my mouth shut about unfair treatment?
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Look at AR350-1, 600-20 and FM 6-22.
Inspection in ASUs every evening from now till eternity..... Check. No drinking..... Check.
The Commander can schedule inspections whenever they want. You folks will by the end of the two weeks be able to disassemble and reassemble your ASUs to standard. I guarantee someone will always be able to find something wrong with any number of Soldiers uniforms at any formation.
The Commander can pull your drinking privileges because you are on regular pass every evening from COB to First call. Part of Pass is the ability to consume alcohol if you are of age. The Commander controls passes.
Would I have recommended this course of action to the Commander... No. If after recommending another course of action to the Commander and being told to drive on would I have executed this course of action with vigor.... Yes.
Inspection in ASUs every evening from now till eternity..... Check. No drinking..... Check.
The Commander can schedule inspections whenever they want. You folks will by the end of the two weeks be able to disassemble and reassemble your ASUs to standard. I guarantee someone will always be able to find something wrong with any number of Soldiers uniforms at any formation.
The Commander can pull your drinking privileges because you are on regular pass every evening from COB to First call. Part of Pass is the ability to consume alcohol if you are of age. The Commander controls passes.
Would I have recommended this course of action to the Commander... No. If after recommending another course of action to the Commander and being told to drive on would I have executed this course of action with vigor.... Yes.
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You are a Soldier 24/7. If the Commander deems to have these formations in ASU's, then the Commander can certainly do so as long as the order is not illegal, immoral, nor unethical. Is it kind of a dick move? Sure, some would see it that way. Is it a way to get a message across to the masses? It certainly is. Will it be effective? Only time will tell. And, it's not about you being a shitbag Soldier needing to know your place, it's about the Commander conveying in a mass blast the message of safety and getting Leaders to get eyes on troops. While the next two weeks will suck, it's only two weeks. As least the Commander didn't make it permanent.
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It may give pause. When I was in the Air Force a guy let his roommate take the fall for that guy,s DWI and a few months later, the guy who let his roommate take the fall died while drunk. Karma. Latitude? I am a non-drinker and I would be p*ssed. hahaha, what is an ASU? I am old now you know. lol
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I think you need to deal with it. I don't know all the facts but it sounds to me like there is a Commander here who is trying to emphasize the importance taking care of each other. The needless death of someone under your command is a serious, heart-wrenching issue. I'm sure there were a lot of questions up and down the coc about who could have known, spoke out, taken action, or showed concern prior to this horrible event happening. Whether or not there as something that could have been done really isn't the point though. Your leadership wants to ensure that this never happens again, and part of that is everyone realizing the seriousness of the issue.
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MSgt Michael Smith God knows how many people die needlessly. That said, we are held to a higher standard, especially when you have other's back. I am a Meteorologist though and my understanding may be different.
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