Posted on Apr 15, 2019
5
5
0
This is a "trust but verify" situation..... At this point in time, I am being told by a recruiter that because of my status within the Navy IRR, I would be ineligible to enter the Army on an active duty status right off the bat.
Instead, I would have to join the reserves and then do the switch over once I complete AIT. The goal has always been to go active duty. Are there any folks out there, who could probably have some insight on how long this layover may be, and what could possibly go wrong.
The dotted line has not been signed yet, so I would like to know as much as I can before I do that.
Thank you in advance...
Instead, I would have to join the reserves and then do the switch over once I complete AIT. The goal has always been to go active duty. Are there any folks out there, who could probably have some insight on how long this layover may be, and what could possibly go wrong.
The dotted line has not been signed yet, so I would like to know as much as I can before I do that.
Thank you in advance...
Reserves
Potential Recruit
Recruiting
Edited 5 y ago
Posted 5 y ago
Responses: 7
7
7
0
It should just be a Conditional Release (DD 368) sent to the Navy IRR, they usually come back within about a week. PM me if you have any other questions, I might be able to do the form for you and once it comes back you can take it into the Recruiter and start the process
(7)
(0)
4
4
0
I am more curious with your rank. Are you doing an IRR transfer as a commissioned officer (1LT?). Not sure a recruiter has the ability to that with a commissioned officer, that's a DA action. Or did you go through the process of resigning your commission already?
(4)
(0)
LTJG Andrew W
I was discharged from the Navy as an O2, who was obligated to go into the IRR. Now I am looking at enlisting in the Army (in an effort to go into the career field I originally wanted, but could not be offered on the Officer side). Within the IRR I still retain the status of O2, and have not formally resigned my commission.
(0)
(0)
SFC J Fullerton
LTJG Andrew W - Google AR 601-210 and go to chapter 3, para 3-13. The recruiter is correct, you are not eligible for Regular Army enlistment. A waiver may be considered if you resign your commission. Recruiters cannot "enlist" former officers because they do not "enlist", they are commissioned. Because you are a commissioned officer in the IRR, it MAY be possible, with an approved DD368 conditional release, AND approval from the US Army Reserve Command, to transfer your commission to the USAR. Officers do not go to AIT, so it sounds like the recruiter is assuming you are resigning your commission. Read up on the regulation, then go back to the recruiter with some ammo so you can ask the right questions. Retaining your commission, and being a non-Army former officer complicates the process greatly, and there are additional regs to reference. Bottom line though, recruiters only handle enlistments, not commissions. You entering the Active Army or Army Reserve as an officer is not an enlistment. I don't have all the answers for you, but you should find some insight in the reg I referenced. Good luck
(1)
(0)
LTJG Andrew W
Solid. Ill make sure to take a look at this some time today...
Also just for clarification, the plan is to ENLIST. I realize that I will be resigning my commission, but in order to get into the Intel community (let alone the specific job I'm shooting for), I would have to enlist to get that guarantee. I just don't have the credentials to get Intel right off the bat, and Id rather not go through training all over again, and compete against my peers, only to find out Ill end up in a job Ill be absolutely miserable in, due to the needs of the Army.
Also just for clarification, the plan is to ENLIST. I realize that I will be resigning my commission, but in order to get into the Intel community (let alone the specific job I'm shooting for), I would have to enlist to get that guarantee. I just don't have the credentials to get Intel right off the bat, and Id rather not go through training all over again, and compete against my peers, only to find out Ill end up in a job Ill be absolutely miserable in, due to the needs of the Army.
(0)
(0)
SFC J Fullerton
LTJG Andrew W - You are being steered toward the USAR because it is easier, and you are not eligible to enlist Regular Army per para 3-13. However, it looks like USAREC (US Army Recruiting Command) has approval authority to waive that rule, provided you resign your commission. Only question is current operational policy, which the recruiter would have to verify. Before you resign your commission and IRR transfer to a USAR unit, find out about the process for a waiver to 3-13 b. (5) for active duty. I think that was it. Once you get into a USAR unit, it is not exactly a given they would release you later to enlist Regular Army.
(1)
(0)
4
4
0
I have never heard of that. As long as you are released from IRR you can go wherever you like, you do not have to join the reserves first. My advice is to not take the recruiters word as locked in stone, but seek another recruiter at a different location. Not all recruiters are the same or equally as knowledgeable.
(4)
(0)
Read This Next
Continue with Facebook 
Continue with Google