Posted on Jun 3, 2019
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If there is a timeline how does presenting the counseling after the limit effect the validity or likelihood of the chain of command pursuing UCMJ or other punishment? Any references?
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SFC Retention Operations Nco
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You can certainly counsel anyone on anything at any time. Whether you're past a stature of limitations for UCMJ is for JAG to figure out
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SSG Brian G.
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There is no timeline on counseling statements. To my knowledge there is no regulation that stipulates a timeframe in regards to a counseling with reference to an event. In my experience it has always been on an "as learned of/as needed" basis.

Command can purse UCMJ action regardless of time, with or without a counseling statement. A counseling statement merely serves as documentation of the particulars of an event ie "Pvt Johnson missed 0600 PT formation on 14 Jun 2010. He further missed morning formation at 0800 and again at 0900. Pvt Johnson had no account for this other than he overslept due to pain medication he had taken." So on and so forth. An NCO can counsel the soldier on a deficiency, command can later come along and decide that just a counseling statement was not a strong enough message to the individual and initiate UCMJ action.
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Alright now SSG , I know this may be a crazy thing to say but you are a SSG. You have UCMJ and ADP and ATP 6.22. You know this. Instead of taking 10 minutes to search a PDF formatted regulation, you turn to social media. Makes SSG like you and myself look incompetent and lazy. If you cant find the answer, your fellow SSG, SFC or 1SG damn sure better have the answer.
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SFC Small Group Leader
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Thanks Owens. I'm not a lazy SSG nor do I mean to give the appearance of one. I've asked many NCO's, researched through many regulations, tried to find memorandums from legal, and asked legal themselves only to come up with no definitive answer. I only use this means of asking because it offers a wide range of people that might be able to help out. So unless you have something useful to add to this question, please don't comment with some ridiculous statement. Thanks.
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1LT Cadet
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SFC (Join to see) I would say it is useful to know if you look incompetent but to each its own.
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1LT (Join to see) so I'm guessing you don't know the answer. Thank you competent SSG for your time and knowledge and great display of professionalism.
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Old comments like this really make this prior service LT look worse then a fresh LT
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