Posted on Feb 11, 2015
Gun enthusiasts and owners: What are your thoughts on Constitutional carry, concealed carry and open carry? Which do you prefer and why?
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(This is meant to be a fun debate)
There have been some studies that suggest majority of crime is opportunity based (aka crime of opportunity theory). Where criminals target those that are perceived as weaker or less likely to fight back. Giving people the means to not only protect themselves but show that they are not afraid to protect themselves may help to reduce crime rates.
There have been countless stories that have backed the prevention of crime when there is an armed citizen present (either in the home or a concealed carry). I can see where some may be concerned about this because just because you can "buy" a gun doesn't mean you know how to "use" a gun. However, some communities that are proud gun zones have less crime and actively educate their children in gun safety as well as proper handling/use.
If you are pro open carry do you think there should be a limitation on the type of firearm that can be carried based on location (e.g. public areas - handguns; hunting/lawful Target Shooting/etc. - all forms; private property - all forms; etc.)?
Edited to include statistics for carrying loaded vs. unloaded:
According to the FBI, "the average gunfight lasts 4 seconds and 95% of gunfights happen within 7 yards." So unless you can load, point and shoot a gun under 4 seconds and within 7 yards (or less if they are rushing at you with a weapon of their own) then you are essentially screwed. You might as well just run around with a baseball bat slung over your shoulder as it would be more effective.
There have been some studies that suggest majority of crime is opportunity based (aka crime of opportunity theory). Where criminals target those that are perceived as weaker or less likely to fight back. Giving people the means to not only protect themselves but show that they are not afraid to protect themselves may help to reduce crime rates.
There have been countless stories that have backed the prevention of crime when there is an armed citizen present (either in the home or a concealed carry). I can see where some may be concerned about this because just because you can "buy" a gun doesn't mean you know how to "use" a gun. However, some communities that are proud gun zones have less crime and actively educate their children in gun safety as well as proper handling/use.
If you are pro open carry do you think there should be a limitation on the type of firearm that can be carried based on location (e.g. public areas - handguns; hunting/lawful Target Shooting/etc. - all forms; private property - all forms; etc.)?
Edited to include statistics for carrying loaded vs. unloaded:
According to the FBI, "the average gunfight lasts 4 seconds and 95% of gunfights happen within 7 yards." So unless you can load, point and shoot a gun under 4 seconds and within 7 yards (or less if they are rushing at you with a weapon of their own) then you are essentially screwed. You might as well just run around with a baseball bat slung over your shoulder as it would be more effective.
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Being retired from Law Enforcement, I always carry a concealed firearm. I once was shopping at a Mall and an idiot pulled a gun out and tried to commit an armed robbery on a store clerk. I happened to be in the Store buying cigars. Anyway, because I was carrying, I stopped that idiot, dis-armed him and detained him until the authorities showed up. I was able to foil that crime before it escalated into something real tragic. I am an avid concealed carrying pro gun advocate. Guns don't kill people , it's the idiot with a gun that is dangerous and there is no shortage of these nuts walking around. Because I am a former LE Officer, I have a permit to carry in all 50 States. Thank God for honest people who are able to carry guns. Believe me, they do make a difference and we do keep people safe from all types of criminals. Just my 2 cents! SF!
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Lt Col Stephen Piper
PO1 Don Mac Intyre -
Fortunately, we are a country based on laws not on you or me interpreting God's laws. There are almost two hundred years of jurisprudence that have interpreted the Constitution and have regulated the rights contained therein. Moreover, one of our first Supreme Court Justices, Chief Justice Marshall, was the first to pronounce the Court's duty to interpret the Constitution.
Fortunately, we are a country based on laws not on you or me interpreting God's laws. There are almost two hundred years of jurisprudence that have interpreted the Constitution and have regulated the rights contained therein. Moreover, one of our first Supreme Court Justices, Chief Justice Marshall, was the first to pronounce the Court's duty to interpret the Constitution.
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Sgt William Coffee
Sgt David G Duchesneau - No where ever has there been a threat from Washington or any official that guns will be taken. Where do you read and/or hear that shit. All anybody wants to do is not sell guns to people that are mentally unstable. Is that not reasonable, or do you feel the 2nd amendment says that all citizens need to be armed. If that's the case you need to study all the words in that amendment.
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Sgt David G Duchesneau
Common sense brother , it's just plain old common sense. And no, not everyone should be armed. WTF-Over! Only those who have a legal right, under the 2nd Amendment of the Constitution, and want to carry should be able to carry! SF!
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CAPT Hiram Patterson
Sgt William Coffee - Government can't be trusted. Vets get their guns taken away now and now the gov't wants doctors to report people to the FBI if they think a patient is wonky and have their guns taken away and the gov't want to look at people on Social Security to see if they are wonky and take their guns away. That is confiscation now and in the future. All gun control, registration, etc., is aimed at is eventually taking everyone's guns away. Hillary proposes gun turn ins like Australia and England had and that is aimed at the same thing. All this is reality, not fiction.
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I choose to carry concealed because I carry for defense of self and others, not to make a public statement.
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I agree with the Right to carry but feel that There needs to be some way to make sure that you arent going to shoot your foot off. Now I have a CCP and carry everywhere that is legally permitted. in that being said I have been asked by a few people that I know that have asked me what type of gun they should get to carry openly. Now asking them questions I was told by one person that they werent going to do any training because they wanted to carry as a scare factor and not have the firearm loaded. (BIG RED FLAG) So i am a large fan of training before you carry.
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SrA (Join to see)
so it was a balmy Aug drill weekend in the guard in Washington. I was a Team Leader in a Transportation Company (leaving specifics out). Now in my team I had a "Special" Private that had been in about 6 years, that just wasnt all there. The next morning he didnt show up at the appointed time which was 30 mins before formation for this soldier. So after calling his cell phone about 15 times with no answer, I gave his wife a call and was able to get in touch with her. Turns out this SM was cleaning his S&W 40 the night before on the couch and didnt eject the magazine fully and ended up firing a round into the top of his foot as he went to remove the slide...and to make a long story short ended up getting pushed out a few months later. Saw this SM about a year ago in the local Wal-Mart and he told me with a smug look on his face that he was receiving disability from the military now due to shooting himself.
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SFC Stillman G.
Shouldn't be getting disability due to self inflicted and off duty (my opinion only).
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Oh I agree completely there is people that are more qualified for disability that arent getting it
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MSG Danny Stanley
Firearms safety is something that used to be taught in the home. My father taught me proper handling and muzzle awareness when I was young. We teach our kids how to speak properly (first amendment) and tell them the proper use of words and sentence structure, and we do not require a license to prove we know how to form a sentence without using foul language, so they don't hurt anyone's "feelings". We teach our children how to drive a car (no constitutional right) and how to parallel park so they don't hurt or kill anyone. We should also teach our children proper firearms handling and safety (second amendment) so they won't hurt or kill anyone.
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