Posted on Jul 6, 2019
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A lot of people will take this as I am being disrespectful but I am sure you have herd it well to many times. I have been reading a lot of questions on here about how soliders have been getting treated and wanted to ask it just me or am I the only one who sees this. All I hear is UCMJ this and counseling that. I have seen someone the other day not having the trailer feet down while it was being pulled by a lmtv and I told the soliders why I stopped him and helped him correct it but thought if someone else saw that I wonder would they be getting their assed chewed.
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SGM Erik Marquez
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SPC (Join to see) How about we use you personal antidote as an example." I have seen someone the other day not having the trailer feet down while it was being pulled by a lmtv and I told the soliders why I stopped him and helped him correct it but thought if someone else saw that I wonder would they be getting their assed chewed."

From your very limited perspective, a junior enlisted driving by, no prior knowledge of the SM, the unit, the equipment ... Your actions were personnel and on balance for the information you had. Well done for lending a hand.

Now, why might you have seen that same SM, truck and trailer getting his ass chewed on a different day?
Well perhaps because the NCO that stopped him, was his Section leader had just briefed the section that morning about ensuring the prime mover and trailer were ready for movement, a extra and specific briefing because the unit had just had a trailer damaged last week in a like failure to follow instructions , guidance and regulations.

Or Perhaps you see a CO grade Captain chewing that drivers ass and wounder why...not knowing that the unit is in deployment phase, that prime mover and its trailer are critical cargo in route to rail head, and the unit has a very small window to be at rail head, get equipment loaded that morning and any delays or equipment damage is mission critical.

Or you see a CO 1SG quitely , but firmly telling the driver and the TC, they needed to fix the issue, get the equipment into the closets parking lot and repot to his officer for counseling and part 1 of UCMJ....BECAUSE they had just damaged the company's trailer that morning when they failed to inspect prior to trying to depart the MP, the company XO had to go sign for another units trailer just so they could get ammo picked up on time...something that was now going to be late in any case as new driver and a TC had to be tasked due this dud pair screwing up again.

Perhaps you often see answers being given here by leaders with a wealth of knowledge and experience you don't yet have..or they are answering from a perspective of what can happen...based on policy, regulations or law.. Not the exceptions to those things a good leader might make when the SM standing in front of them is generally a good Soldier, made an honest mistake that is recoverable as no one was hurt, no damage to equipment, yet because the mistake could have caused both its worth a stern lecture, a general counseling statement to back up the conversation..where you the friendly and helpful SPC would have just handed them a lug wrench from your vehicle BII and watched as they tightened the remaining 3 of 8 lug nuts that had not yet fallen off.
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SFC Melvin Brandenburg
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I think more and more stress and frustration creeps in to our ranks. The best thing I did as a leader was decide to build others up when they made a mistake and save the ass chewing for rare occasions, making the impact of those much more effective.
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SGM Bill Frazer
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Questions are not disrespectful, attitudes and an unwillingness to listen and learn are. UCMJ for a good leader is normally the last straw after trying other means, but with that said UCMJ is written so there is no excuses, 2nd tries, 2nd chances period, Read it yourself, Its like the 12 commandments- break 1 and you are guilty period and no migrating circumstances till time for punishment. That why to push on counseling, School of the Soldier and other programs NCO's have to correct failings without crucifixion on UCMJ.
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