Posted on Feb 11, 2020
Can I fight a Chapter 13 after failing 2 PT tests?
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Through the entire month of August I was on medical con leave. Got referred to a civilian doctor. Was given a note saying that I’ve undergone surgery and need 30 days of Convalescent leave. I didn’t receive a profile for it and wasn’t given a specific rehab time.
3 days after my con leave ended, I got put on the gate guard detail. I was doing self rehabilitation by running to get back to where I was. October 9th, I had taken a PT test. Prior to, I told my leadership that I was going to fail it because I wasn’t anywhere close to the army standard in the run event. Got told to suck it up and move on.
After failing the Pt test, I was given my counseling statement from the commander and 1SG. The plan of action was “Remedial PT”. However, remedial PT never happened and I asked my chain of command when are we starting it and where will it take place. Never received an answer cause it wasn’t a thing. Since that was the case, I continued to do PT on my own to get where I needed to be.
7Jan2020, we took another PT test and again I had failed it. Commander initiated separation as he should because the regulation states it. Got put back on gate guard shortly after that PT test. Commander had told me that if he sees signs of progress and that I want this, I’ll be given another chance. 07Feb2020, I had taken yet another PT test and passed it.
Now I’m just waiting and continuing to go through with the separation process.
3 days after my con leave ended, I got put on the gate guard detail. I was doing self rehabilitation by running to get back to where I was. October 9th, I had taken a PT test. Prior to, I told my leadership that I was going to fail it because I wasn’t anywhere close to the army standard in the run event. Got told to suck it up and move on.
After failing the Pt test, I was given my counseling statement from the commander and 1SG. The plan of action was “Remedial PT”. However, remedial PT never happened and I asked my chain of command when are we starting it and where will it take place. Never received an answer cause it wasn’t a thing. Since that was the case, I continued to do PT on my own to get where I needed to be.
7Jan2020, we took another PT test and again I had failed it. Commander initiated separation as he should because the regulation states it. Got put back on gate guard shortly after that PT test. Commander had told me that if he sees signs of progress and that I want this, I’ll be given another chance. 07Feb2020, I had taken yet another PT test and passed it.
Now I’m just waiting and continuing to go through with the separation process.
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Seems to be a lot of Failed PT tests in Rally Point lately with surprised Soldiers that this is real.
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I noticed that as well MSG. I understand the regulations and that PT is to be done in free time. If having a problem with running, go run after work. I did what I could. It’s just something about this just doesn’t feel right.
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And By no means am I blaming my leadership, because it is my responsibility that I had failed my run. I just feel that my leadership could have worked with me. Remedial Pt being a program to help soldiers who have deficiencies in certain categories (My running for example). With that program not being implemented as well as myself coming off of con leave. It just doesn’t seem right
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SPC (Join to see) - I would listen to everything SFC Kelly Fuerhoff said, she is spot on with her guidance. This is 100% your fault. I wish you luck, but as a SPC you should have known more about this type of situation you find yourself in.
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SPC Yester, if everything you say is accurate, my first question is, where was your first-line supervisor? Unless my information is inaccurate, most companies, put the Remedial PT Program back on the Section Sergeants. He or she should've been getting you ready for your next PT test, by working with you after hours. You said something about not blaming your leadership...I would...your leadership begins with your Squad Leader or Section Sergeant. It’s unfortunate that a Chapter has been initiated...once it starts, that “snow ball” keep rolling. Let’s hope the damage will be minimal.
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Timeline looks right with profile length x2 not to exceed 90 days on the APFT.
It also looks like your Chain of Command have you the benefit of the doubt and has 3 record APFT results showing failure.
Unless you can successfully take and pass an APFT like tomorrow and convince your Chain of Command to stop separation action, no.
It sucks getting hurt brother, and it’s really hard to come back from. The policy and guidance that SEC Mattis put out hasn’t changed. Deployable after recovery or civilian across the force.
It also looks like your Chain of Command have you the benefit of the doubt and has 3 record APFT results showing failure.
Unless you can successfully take and pass an APFT like tomorrow and convince your Chain of Command to stop separation action, no.
It sucks getting hurt brother, and it’s really hard to come back from. The policy and guidance that SEC Mattis put out hasn’t changed. Deployable after recovery or civilian across the force.
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