Posted on Feb 21, 2020
TSgt Aerospace Medical Service
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MSG Gary Eckert
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Edited 4 y ago
Not sure how the process works in the Air Force, your budgeting office should have a manpower section that can assist you with the necessary paperwork . In the Army, the first step in re-organizing a unit is a concept plan. Part of that concept plan will include a manpower survey where you will need to justify the desired new positions. To convert MIL to CIV, it is best to focus the justification on the need for continuity in the position or returning a MIL position to the Operating Force. Be prepared to address the funding stream for this position because unlike MIL positions CIV positions must be funded.
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Continuity is the exact thing that we are going for. The current positions are coded to reflect an MOS/AFSC but there are no functions being performed relative to that MOS/AFSC. Basically we are wanting to convert an unneeded mil position to a civ. position who can manage the essential programs being “managed” by other mil prsnl. Those assigned to manage the prgms are required to be on field ops too often to track training, conduct/schedule/provide training or maintain currency in health care required fields. Thank you for you input.
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SSG Infantryman
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Are you looking for something along the lines of converting GS-Grade to Mil-Grade? Or something more along the lines of converting a job description from military to civilian?
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So our situation is atypical...we are an advanced level, operations assigned medical unit, assigned to an installation whose medical treatment facility can’t provide the initial or sustainment training that our medical prsnl need to fulfill our mission. In addition, our higher command will not allow us to screen/interview for hire; therefore, we get whatever we get. It has often resulted in under trained individuals arriving to our unit on a 4 year controlled tour. Our experienced/higher trained prsnl are task/ops saturated, and although assigned to those training positions, are gone on ops too often to get the lesser trained/experienced up to speed. We have medical positions that are not being utilized as medical assets and have tossed around the idea of converting those positions to civ trainer positions for program continuity and getting the new folks/lesser trained folk up to speed on advanced wilderness medicine, helicopter SAR training, remote mountain training, etc. All of those areas that the family medicine or flight medicine clinics from which they arrived, didn’t prepare them for. Instead recreating the wheel every 2-4 years, and hoping that we get the right people, and GS position would ensure continuity in those programs and ensure a dedicated trainer.
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Well, this is clearly way beyond my knowledge and skills. I hope you're able to find an answer, it seems like you have a good idea. I doubt this is helpful, and you've probably already looked at this, but AFI 38-101 might be somewhat useful.
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