Posted on May 13, 2020
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So,

I got the update from my UA, and a copy of my Approval Memorandum. Thank you to those who were supportive! Why would RallyPoint require a question mark to end posts?
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I don't like religious exceptions. I believe that if you voluntarily join the military you should follow all the regulations and not ask for special exemptions. However, since the military opened this can of worms and allow certain religions to wear turbans and beards, they should allow all religions to follow their grooming practices. Otherwise it is discrimination. Bottom line: if the military is going to allow Muslims to wear beards then they should allow Nazarites to not cut their hair. You can't pick and choose which religions get granted exceptions.
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1SG Alexis Ruiz
1SG Alexis Ruiz
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Sir if this was a fact then we would need to worry about everyone. Evangelicals, Catholics, Muslim, Jewish, wickens, etc....
Remember we have a chaplain corps.
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1SG Alexis Ruiz
1SG Alexis Ruiz
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Sir you do understand it applies to everyone. You can be a Jedi for all I care, do your J.O.B. and go through the process and apply for the accommodation with the GCMA.
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PFC Frederick Frederickson
PFC Frederick Frederickson
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I always thought it would be funny to make a YouTube skit of "PFC Samson" constantly having to show his "NO haircut, NO Shave" profile because he literally had super-strength from not cutting his hair.

"Actually, Sir, when the M88 broke down, they just called PFC Samson, and he was able to make the recovery."
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PO2 David Ball
PO2 David Ball
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1SG Alexis Ruiz - Until the first time that he gets gassed... Or worst than that a good old fashioned bioterror weapon. Like COVID-19 And then it's off to the barbershop!!!!
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SFC Retention Operations Nco
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I have one Soldier in my unit that has one and I've seen another here on post. One is a Sikh and the other a Pagan. The Sikh I understand because that's an article of his faith. He has to choose to either forego his faith or his military service. His religion requires that he wear a beard. The other, his religion recommends that he wear a beard. His beard isn't an article of faith, he doesn't have to choose between his faith and the military. The exemption was created to allow people to serve who would have otherwise been prevented from service by their faiths, and they still have to shave if needed for the mission. The first type are routinely approved, the second one, less often.
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SGT Cargo Specialist
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That's an interesting answer Sfc. Thanks for your thoughts!
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LTC Joe Anderson
LTC Joe Anderson
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Good explanation.
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SSG Bob Teachout
SSG Bob Teachout
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IF a GI was drafted - maybe - allowed an exception - but the volunteer Army - NO exemptions.
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SGT Field Service Technician
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SFC Jason,your response is great but I don’t agree with you because there’s is no fair play here; this is a complete discrimination against religious belief.
Since the Army is currently not drafting anybody to service and you choose to volunteer then it means you giving up your preferences so you go with what ever regulations that comes your way but not to request for any exception.
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SSG Infantryman
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I wouldn't read too much into the time it has taken. Religious shaving exemptions are a process that is relatively new and infrequent. Odds are your waiver is not the priority for any of the people you're dealing with. My experience with SJAs has been that they move entirely on their own timeline; I have never seen them make a suspense date, regardless of how much cushion is built into the timeline just for legal review. Best of luck to you.
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LTC Jason Mackay
LTC Jason Mackay
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The fact that it is still an active action is encouraging. Much easier to say no, because reasons.
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SGT Cargo Specialist
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Approved!
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