Posted on Jul 12, 2020
What has been your operational experience as an 35L or 35M? Is 35L now an entry level MOS?
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Whats your operational experience with 35L and 35M. I was a geospatial analyst (1N1) about 10 years ago. I was told that 35L is an entry level mos now. Is that true?
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35L: Counterintelligence (CI) Agent
35M: Human Intelligence Collector
35L: Counterintelligence (CI) Agent 35M: Human Intelligence Collector
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35L has been on and off an entry level MOS. I think right now it is, but it still has a minimum age requirement.
Your old MOS translates to 12Y in the Army now
Your old MOS translates to 12Y in the Army now
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Both are very instrumental in the operational process.
35M was created from the old interrogator MOS for The GWOT and really will be finding itself forward since it isn’t something you can do outside of a combat zone. Nor do commanders like to send out young HUMINTers outside the wire to CO duct thier job so it’s a hit or miss when it comes to you doing your job or just an extra body in the S2 shop doing passports and security-LOL but in our army the 35M get promoted faster and also if there is a mix of both MOSs the Mike is the higher rank which creates a false ceiling for the Lima’s. This is a great feeder MOS for DAT work or stepping into strategic HUMINT.
35L are actual special agents, like the FBI but only DOD. You have a very intricate and strategic mission that if utilized correctly is a profound multiplier in peace and at war. You can work in CONUS and OCONUS as well as in Combat. If you stay in the 902d and 650th you can make rank and shine, or maybe even in Special Operations; however, if you diversify you’ll do well amongst your peers but will fall behind the strategic folks. This too is a great feeder into Startegic CI elsewhere. I have found few, very few commanders (non CI) who really know what these folks are supposed to and or can do. Normally so frustrating most go elsewhere away from Army into a DOD or OGA activity.
Of the two-best outside Army is 35L, inside the Army 35M
Good luck!
35M was created from the old interrogator MOS for The GWOT and really will be finding itself forward since it isn’t something you can do outside of a combat zone. Nor do commanders like to send out young HUMINTers outside the wire to CO duct thier job so it’s a hit or miss when it comes to you doing your job or just an extra body in the S2 shop doing passports and security-LOL but in our army the 35M get promoted faster and also if there is a mix of both MOSs the Mike is the higher rank which creates a false ceiling for the Lima’s. This is a great feeder MOS for DAT work or stepping into strategic HUMINT.
35L are actual special agents, like the FBI but only DOD. You have a very intricate and strategic mission that if utilized correctly is a profound multiplier in peace and at war. You can work in CONUS and OCONUS as well as in Combat. If you stay in the 902d and 650th you can make rank and shine, or maybe even in Special Operations; however, if you diversify you’ll do well amongst your peers but will fall behind the strategic folks. This too is a great feeder into Startegic CI elsewhere. I have found few, very few commanders (non CI) who really know what these folks are supposed to and or can do. Normally so frustrating most go elsewhere away from Army into a DOD or OGA activity.
Of the two-best outside Army is 35L, inside the Army 35M
Good luck!
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PV2 Michael Wise
so my reserve recruiter says the army pays up to $500 for my monthly commute if its more than 125 miles away. I'm thinking if I can snag a Lima. I'd be willing to tough out a commute to maybe say Fort Meade for counterintel I read they have a big presence there. If I wanted to attach to a special ops unit where would I look to?
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Ive only served as a 35M but have served alongside many 35L as well. When deployed I worked on a team made up of me and a couple 35L. I did a lot of HUMINT related work while I was there and also assisted the 35L in work when I could. Our missions were very similar and with a small team it made for a fun mission. I know 35L is supposed to be entry level now but I’m not sure how long that’ll last. The 35M tend to go out and about a lot more than the 35L do. I left the wire quite regularly when deployed by my 35L teammates left maybe once. Hopefully this answers some of what you are looking for.
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PV2 Michael Wise
I'm also kinda curious what I might be doing during my 2 weeks. I know my one weekend a month will most likely be catching up on my computer training
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For me it’s been a lot of different things over the years. I was with an MP BDE so my first few years was heavily focused on detainee ops and interrogations during my 2 weeks. Then I was in a MICO so it was a lot more well rounded training involving all the 35 series MOS in a few FTX events, including some multi-national exercises with some of our allied partners. Every now and then there would be classes we would go to for the two weeks to either enhance our 35M skills or cross train on other 35 series functions. It all depends on the type of unit and if they know how to use you. It took me about 2 years to explain to the MP BDE that its 35Ms could be more effective in our Det Ops FTX as actual interrogators that as someone who simply made weather slides for 2 weeks.
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