Posted on Jul 19, 2020
National Guard: Does my unit/state have to allow me to complete annual training?
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I'm currently living in Germany with my active duty AF wife. I come back to the US 4-8 times per year to complete IDT (usually 3 months bundled together), ADT (schools and marksmanship competitions), and AT. This year, due to Covid, my state (ILNG) is currently refusing to allow me to return to the US to complete an annual training due to the risk that travel could be restricted again. They are concerned that if I am not allowed to return to Germany, they would be required to keep me on orders until such time that they could provide travel back to the EU.
I've done some research and haven't been able to find the answer. Is there any regulation or is the ILNG contractually obligated to ensure I'm allowed to complete annual training each year?
I've done some research and haven't been able to find the answer. Is there any regulation or is the ILNG contractually obligated to ensure I'm allowed to complete annual training each year?
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You may be able to do an additional duty school with the 7th msc (USAR) like usar eur antiterrorism, physical security, UPL, etc or get into contact with the 7th, theyre on Daenner Kaesern in kaiserslautern
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SSG (Join to see) Thanks for your response. I have a place to complete the AT here already, and the local personnel are very supportive. With NG, we have to have title 10 orders (normally operate on title 32) in order to complete any OCONUS training. That takes approval from NGB, which means a little work for personnel managers in my state. It seems like they're going to try to put me off until they can run out the clock on the FY.
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CPT (Join to see) its unfortunate, during my tenure in europe it seems youre not the only guardsman in that predicament
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The law states you are entitled to 15 days of active service each year but does not stipulate AT. It could be Special Training, formal schools, any type of Full Time National Guard Duty, etc and it doesn't stipulate where the duty is pulled. You could train with an active unit in Germany if your TAG will allow and the active unit agrees.
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Thank you, sir. That is exactly what I was wondering!
Have you ever worked on getting title 10 orders for a soldier/airman before? I'm not sure who in my state I would need to speak to in order to handle the packet for NGB approval? Is there someone in each state that has that as a duty?
Have you ever worked on getting title 10 orders for a soldier/airman before? I'm not sure who in my state I would need to speak to in order to handle the packet for NGB approval? Is there someone in each state that has that as a duty?
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T10 orders? I know the ANG side extremely well but not the ARNG so much. If you are referring to cutting your training orders in T10 bc you will train in Germany then your units orders clerk can do that
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Col (Join to see) - Sir, it must be different in the ARNG, I've done a couple stints in Europe and Canada for marksmanship competitions the last few years. We had to send packets up to NGB for approval, then the state could cut the T10 and NATO orders, though I'm not sure if that is necessary since 1) am already an EU resident with a SOFA stamp, 2) won't be working on a NATO base but on a US base, 3) won't be traveling from the US to work OCONUS. And I'm not really sure who I would talk to... I appreciate the info!
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They might allow you to do some sort of virtual AT. Not 100% sure how the NG is navigating AT during Covid, but they might allow you to assist an unit in Germany and count it for AT.
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SSG (Join to see) Thanks for the response. I asked about that as well, seems like it may be a possibility since we've been doing some virtual IDTs.
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CPT (Join to see) yeah my company's AT keeps getting pushed to the right. We might not even have one. But since we've been doing virtual BAs it seems like knowing the army they can come up with an ATs worth of courses or other online stuff to count and keep you busy.
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