Posted on Sep 2, 2020
Can someone please tell me the AR on that a soldier NEEDS to have a certain amount of time left in the Army to attend BLC?
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I have a SPC in my squad who has been promotable since February. I asked back in May why he hasn't attended distance learning BLC yet. I was told because he had less than a year before ETS, which was in Dec. While I was in ALC last month. He extended for 6 more months, and still the same reason why he hasn't gone. Yes he is on the OML but I also had another soldier attend the E5 board back in May and he starts BLC this month. It just frustrates me to see this happening to a great soldier.
Army Regulations
Promotions
Basic Leaders Course (BLC formerly WLC PLDC)
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Sounds like you need to be that SSG and get cussed out until someone signs the form. We all know how it goes when trying to get a signature. You have to bare the brunt to keep them accountable.
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Had a soldier back November of last year. Needed to get them into BLC's January class. Schools gives me a call and tell me SM had the wrong Class application, it had been updated. I got the new form, filled it out and sent it to the commander diriectly. What's noteworthy is that Schools tells that they're on a deadline to send the list up to get in for January's class. I get the talking to of not sending things to the commander. Long story short, commander waited the WHOLE day to sign the form and the SM didn't even make the alternate list and had to wait until February. So yea man, take that ass chewing to get that signature
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AR 614-200 has a table that gives the breakdown of the SRR for training based on the length of training.
On the HRC website you’ll find a statement that says all NCOES must have at least six months from graduation date to attend. As for your SPC, most bases use an OML based on promotion points. That may be why he hasn’t attended yet
On the HRC website you’ll find a statement that says all NCOES must have at least six months from graduation date to attend. As for your SPC, most bases use an OML based on promotion points. That may be why he hasn’t attended yet
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This is what I got off the Army HRC site
https://www.hrc.army.mil/content/Time%20Remaining%20in%20Service%20Obligation%20for%20Military%20Schooling
"Regulatory guidance on the time remaining in service (TRS) obligation incurred after attending military schools is found in AR 614-200, Chapter 4 (Enlisted Assignments and Utilization Management).
Soldiers who are selected for and attend service schools incur a TRS obligation based on the length of the course. The TRS obligation commences upon completion of the course.
Soldiers with insufficient TRS to meet the prescribed TRS obligation must reenlist or extend before attending training.
The maximum TRS obligation for school attendance is 36 months. TRS requirements for some special training or career development programs may differ from those normally prescribed for military school attendance. Soldiers selected for special training programs must meet the TRS obligation prescribed for the program selected.
Soldiers who met the TRS requirement at the beginning of school attendance do not incur any additional TRS obligations if they are held over or recycled.
The TRS obligation is six months for Soldiers attending NCO Professional Development System courses, regardless of the length of the course, except for attendance at the U.S. Army Sergeants Major Course, which incurs a 24-month TRS obligation.
Voluntary retirements will not be approved for Soldiers until after they have completed all TRS obligations, to include those resulting from school attendance. Request for waiver will be forwarded through the Soldier's commander to CDR, HRC, ATTN: HRC-EPS-S, Fort Knox, KY 40122."
So by that the SM would need 6 months time remaining on their contract after completion of BLC.
Not to be a smartass but WHO told him he would not have enough time left?
https://www.hrc.army.mil/content/Time%20Remaining%20in%20Service%20Obligation%20for%20Military%20Schooling
"Regulatory guidance on the time remaining in service (TRS) obligation incurred after attending military schools is found in AR 614-200, Chapter 4 (Enlisted Assignments and Utilization Management).
Soldiers who are selected for and attend service schools incur a TRS obligation based on the length of the course. The TRS obligation commences upon completion of the course.
Soldiers with insufficient TRS to meet the prescribed TRS obligation must reenlist or extend before attending training.
The maximum TRS obligation for school attendance is 36 months. TRS requirements for some special training or career development programs may differ from those normally prescribed for military school attendance. Soldiers selected for special training programs must meet the TRS obligation prescribed for the program selected.
Soldiers who met the TRS requirement at the beginning of school attendance do not incur any additional TRS obligations if they are held over or recycled.
The TRS obligation is six months for Soldiers attending NCO Professional Development System courses, regardless of the length of the course, except for attendance at the U.S. Army Sergeants Major Course, which incurs a 24-month TRS obligation.
Voluntary retirements will not be approved for Soldiers until after they have completed all TRS obligations, to include those resulting from school attendance. Request for waiver will be forwarded through the Soldier's commander to CDR, HRC, ATTN: HRC-EPS-S, Fort Knox, KY 40122."
So by that the SM would need 6 months time remaining on their contract after completion of BLC.
Not to be a smartass but WHO told him he would not have enough time left?
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SSG Brian G.
SSG (Join to see) - This if from HRC with a date of 15 Apr 2020. It might be a local thing to require more time but...
If it were me? I would reference that AR, print that off the HRC site and go see your commander. Let him be the dog in the fight as he has more pull and push than either your PSG or 1SG and he can freely reach above the CSM's head.
If it were me? I would reference that AR, print that off the HRC site and go see your commander. Let him be the dog in the fight as he has more pull and push than either your PSG or 1SG and he can freely reach above the CSM's head.
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