Posted on Oct 6, 2020
Hello to all. I am a prior service Marine looking to submit a woft package. What can I do to bolster my packet to be selected?
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Also I’m 31, birthday in February and going to have to lose weight since I’ve been out since 2011. I’m open to all opinions and flying is the only thing I want to do for the rest of my life but civilian side is outrageously expensive and I’m miserable being a civilian.
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Not sure what you're referring to in the "woft" package. My guess if you'd like to fly as a Warrant Officer, just contact an Army Recruiter and see what is required. I'm sure they have pre-requisites, and passing the W.O.C.S. is required for entry into flight training. I graduated from O.C.S. and it's a physically and mentally demanding course. And I'm certain (I've been told too) that W.O.C.S. is also similarly demanding... just get in shape, starting out slowly, running, pushups, sit-ups and keep improving each week.
If you can only run 1/2 mile without stopping, then do that & walk for 2 other miles. Add a half a mile each week until you're able to run for 30 minutes straight without stopping. At that point, it's all about pace- If you can run for 3 miles in 30 minutes (10 minute per mile pace or better), you can probably speed up you're time to run for 2 miles in under 18 minutes easily (and beat the new ACFT standards). Just keep on improving & don't give up no matter what.
If you can only run 1/2 mile without stopping, then do that & walk for 2 other miles. Add a half a mile each week until you're able to run for 30 minutes straight without stopping. At that point, it's all about pace- If you can run for 3 miles in 30 minutes (10 minute per mile pace or better), you can probably speed up you're time to run for 2 miles in under 18 minutes easily (and beat the new ACFT standards). Just keep on improving & don't give up no matter what.
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LCpl Seth Thompson
I understand what the requirements are my question is in regards to making my packet more appealing than other personnel I’m competing against. IE: who would be best for a letter of recommendation and also how heavy is the competition for being selected on the board.
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LCpl Seth Thompson - I always kinda chuckle when I see these type questions. To be 100% honest, at this point there is little you can do to make a packet more appealing. Good solid LORs will help but, honestly, if you haven't done it already it's virtually too late to pad your resume, so to speak. and these days, competition is fierce because supply outweighs demand so the board can afford to be more particular.
I am a prime example. I commissioned at 40 and thought that if I could retire as a Major it would be gravy. When I made MAJ I thought I would be lucky if I could pick up LTC before retiring. Well surprise surprise, I got selected for LTC first look and even though I now have enough time left to make COL in theory, I did not seek out the necessary assignments or do the needed wheel greasing to set myself up to make O6 and now it's too late. So, I'll ride out my last 2 years and happily retire and draw my O5 pay.
I am a prime example. I commissioned at 40 and thought that if I could retire as a Major it would be gravy. When I made MAJ I thought I would be lucky if I could pick up LTC before retiring. Well surprise surprise, I got selected for LTC first look and even though I now have enough time left to make COL in theory, I did not seek out the necessary assignments or do the needed wheel greasing to set myself up to make O6 and now it's too late. So, I'll ride out my last 2 years and happily retire and draw my O5 pay.
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LCpl Seth Thompson
[~219687:LTC Bruce Burch not to say you’re wrong but it’s my understanding the army is highly understaffed when it comes to army Warrant Officer aviators. Also as far as padding my resume it’s pretty stout I’m referring to mostly sift scores what range do I need to be in and what fitness score. Not overly confident but these are pretty much all I can see that would remotely hold me back also officer selections are completely different. It my opinion that I’m a perfect candidate to become a warrant officer. Could any recent warrant officer selectees chime in as to difficulty in the process? Also are people really flying to recruiters given the woft program is a minimum 10 year enlistment for aviators?
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LCpl Seth Thompson - You'll probably be best served by contacting an Aviation Unit for more information about the process & maybe interview with the Squadron Staff or Commander to ask for a recommendation (you never know if you don't ask). They may have you give them a military resume or Biographical Summary to show you're skills & experience (Google has many Bio Examples). They may even ask to see your last 3 Evaluations/Fitness Reports also before actually giving a recommendation.
If you don't live near an active Army installation- I'd recommend you contact an Army Reserve or National Guard Aviation unit. 11th Aviation Brigade is at Ft. Knox, KY & there is an Aviation Brigade also in Colorado Springs, CO. Many States have Aviation Units as well, contact the state joint force headquarters & ask to speak with the Army Personnel folks, who might provide contact information with Aviation Units in their state.
If you don't live near an active Army installation- I'd recommend you contact an Army Reserve or National Guard Aviation unit. 11th Aviation Brigade is at Ft. Knox, KY & there is an Aviation Brigade also in Colorado Springs, CO. Many States have Aviation Units as well, contact the state joint force headquarters & ask to speak with the Army Personnel folks, who might provide contact information with Aviation Units in their state.
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