Posted on Jan 5, 2021
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A little background, I signed for a medical hand receipt July2018 until our new NCO got to the unit to take over. However, he never did. The last sign HR supply has from me was late 2019. In 2020 we had a newly promoted E-5 who also was supposed to sign for it but never did either. During this time, I was still working at the BAS and had positive control of the HR. Once Covid-19 hit the U.S. I was forced to move to work outside of the BAS therefore lost control of the HR. This new NCO has lost accountability of all keys; left sensitive item doors wide open before. I have tried to state my concern about him doing this, moving the items without telling me or me being there and to move me back into the BAS to have positive control of the HR but I kept getting I am the NCO here you do not tell me what to do. I have also talked to my commander and BN CSM. They both told me that they would get him to sign for it. Currently there has been and item that has gone missing and this NCO is trying to pin the FLIPO onto me because he never signed for it and technically, I am still the last person to sign for it. I guess I am just asking if I can get him to sign a sworn statement saying that I was not there for this period of time that this missing item is not my fault.
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MSG Intermediate Care Technician
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If memory serves, 2062s are good for 6 months and 3161 is 30 days or less. However, contact your PBO and they can give you the full skinny
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Edited >1 y ago
I had a similar incident to this where a sensitive item went missing after a field problem, I was the company commander and hand receipt holder. The item didn't show up missing until the change of command inventory. Prior to this it had been sub-hand receipted to the NBC NCO and from him to the person that needed the item for the field problem. The FLIPL (after full investigation) charged half to me and half to the NBC NCO because we should have physically inventoried the item which had a hand-receipt older than 6 months (to the person that lost it and was responsible).

Sad thing is (not relevant to your situation), if the item had been reported missing by soldier signed for it, I would have been able to write it off as a field loss (which was the Battalion Commander's intent...but he changed command prior to completion of the FLIPL investigation), I was at a new post, and the new Battalion Commander didn't care.

MSG (Join to see) is correct in his response.
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SFC Retention Operations Nco
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There will be an investigating officer appointed for the loss of the property. Responsibility is about more than just who signs a hand receipt, it includes who failed to secure items or an area as well.

There was a similar post a while back by a kid who had signed for several laptops and his section SGT allowed one to go missing. One of the leaders on here wrote an excellent explanation of the FLIPL investigation and the regs that go with it.

Also, sub hand receipts are supposed to be signed every month now under the new inventory system.
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