Posted on May 19, 2015
PT Grading standards relaxed for senior ranking NCOs (Is rank a factor?)
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So from what i have been hearing lately is about a double-standard when it comes to grading the APFT. (Both use same grader) For Ex. One Soldier is an E-2, falling into the 17-21 age group. Clearly exceeds the required number of push ups, sit ups and the 2 mile run. Finished with a 43 push up score. Now we have an E9, form isnt horrible but still bad enough to have a req not count every now and then. Final push up score was 83. Keep in mind that they were using the same grader, an E6. Now how can those scores vary so much? Does Rank play a factor in the overal score of a PT test?
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All I can say is rank should not play a factor cause there is only one standard and that is the Army Standard!
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SFC (Join to see)
What SFC Loveless said. The standard is spelled out in black and white in FM 7-22. If there is a grader that is not fulfilling the requirements, that person needs remedial training.
Some people are intimidated by rank. It is sometimes hard to overlook rank or position, but it is something we will all face if we are in the military long enough.
Some people are intimidated by rank. It is sometimes hard to overlook rank or position, but it is something we will all face if we are in the military long enough.
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After 10, he should've been stopped if his reps were that bad. Furthermore, a grader answers to an APFT NCOIC and OIC. Between them and the CoC, I'd suggest asking the APFT Chain if the APFT could be diagnostic and requesting another record APFT and requesting a Leader you trust to be present. The Soldier should also check DTMS and his/her ERB to see whether the APFT was uploaded. Tact and demonstration of your reps will be needed.
Also, I've seen a Marine Sgt fail Push-ups during Airborne simply because there weren't enough slots, supposedly. I've seen seniors attain perfect scores with half reps. Maybe the SSG didn't have enough, err, in him to tell the SNCO to correct his form.
Rant Complete.
Also, I've seen a Marine Sgt fail Push-ups during Airborne simply because there weren't enough slots, supposedly. I've seen seniors attain perfect scores with half reps. Maybe the SSG didn't have enough, err, in him to tell the SNCO to correct his form.
Rant Complete.
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Do you have irrefutible proof that the person grading the APFT used a double standard? You can do a 100 push ups but if only 43 of them are correct form then you only get counted for 43, sorry but thats how the cookie crumbles.
Now if that was the case where the E2 pushed hard for 2 minutes and only came up with 43 then the grader should have been telling that Soldier what they were doing wrong, example being not going low enough, not breaking the plane..etc
Otherwise if your calling that E6's integrity into question then you better have some hard core proof and if you do...take it up the chain.
Now if that was the case where the E2 pushed hard for 2 minutes and only came up with 43 then the grader should have been telling that Soldier what they were doing wrong, example being not going low enough, not breaking the plane..etc
Otherwise if your calling that E6's integrity into question then you better have some hard core proof and if you do...take it up the chain.
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SSG (Join to see)
Roger SFC, it was just an example because i have been hearing about it a lot lately.
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SFC (Join to see)
When I was in, I never graded anyone differently wether it was an E1 or my BC. Standard is the Standard. You will "hear" a lot of things but my advice is verify verify verify....rumor's are a cancer!
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