Posted on May 9, 2021
Is there a regulation that deals with when a soldier lets a military vehicle run out of fuel?
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We had a soldier not check fuel level and let a LMTV run out of fuel on a mission. Granted he was the TC (E-4), is there any type of regulation or counseling template I can use in order to take care of this?
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You don't need a regulation to replace common sense. A counseling is not a reprimand. Whatever you would day out loud you just put on the counseling. It can read like this:
Don't do dumb stuff. Vehicles need fuel. If you drive off without fuel that's dumb. Always fuel before driving.
Don't do dumb stuff. Vehicles need fuel. If you drive off without fuel that's dumb. Always fuel before driving.
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CPT Lawrence Cable
I like that, short and simple. I will add that the young CPL should find a fueling requirement in the unit SOP. I would also advise that he start inspecting a random vehicle in his section before every mission. If it isn't inspected, it isn't done. I would grab a driver and do PMCS on his vehicle even as the CO.
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You will need two references.
For you, ATP 6-22.1.
For the Soldier and the counseling, TM-9-2320-365-10.
The counseling plan of action might include corrective training, that should be the counseled SM conducting PMCS on an LMTV, possibly also teaching PMCS on an LMTV to others.
The LMTV gets around 8 MPG, leaving the motor pool/fuel point with less than a full tank is stupid, and contrary to the TM and any SOP you might have.
For you, ATP 6-22.1.
For the Soldier and the counseling, TM-9-2320-365-10.
The counseling plan of action might include corrective training, that should be the counseled SM conducting PMCS on an LMTV, possibly also teaching PMCS on an LMTV to others.
The LMTV gets around 8 MPG, leaving the motor pool/fuel point with less than a full tank is stupid, and contrary to the TM and any SOP you might have.
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Back in my Heavy Engineer days, it was SOP to refuel the vehicle after EVERY mission outside of the motor pool and as needed when in the field. Part of the PCC/PCI and PMCS of that vehicle before it rolls out is to check the fuel levels. Both the Driver AND the TC failed and both need to be counseling.
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Why are you looking to hem up a soldier by finding a regulation or relying on somebody else to do the work through a template? It's a simple "you did a dumb thing" type counseling. If you can't think of anything like a specific regulation or SOP do you really think this soldier is going to have knowledge of it?
And an LMTV takes a bit to run down on fuel. If this truck wasn't just running around on its own doing details whoever was leading that convoy needs to be talked to as well.
And an LMTV takes a bit to run down on fuel. If this truck wasn't just running around on its own doing details whoever was leading that convoy needs to be talked to as well.
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