Posted on May 13, 2014
SSG Robert Burns
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SFC Health I.T. (Hit) Systems Security Engineer
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Lazy gets paid more than hard workers.... always has been that way...always will be.

(Example: Hard worker-> Ditch Diiger $10./hr (circa)
Lazy worker-> Security Guard $15./hr (circa) )
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SFC Stephen P.
SFC Stephen P.
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"Progress doesn't come from early risers — progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." --Robert A. Heinlein
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SFC James Baber
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<p>Really SFC W,</p><p><br></p><p>You are going to vote me down and not even provide a reason for the down vote.</p><p><br></p><p>https://www.rallypoint.com/profiles/16563-15p-aviation-operations-specialist-10th-cab-hhc-10th-cab</p><div class="pta-link-card"><div class="pta-link-card-picture"><img src="https://www.rallypoint.com/assets/RallyPoint-logo-03989f248440c5e391e15a46e4db94fa.png"></div><div class="pta-link-card-content"><div class="pta-link-card-title"><a href="https://www.rallypoint.com/profiles/16563-15p-aviation-operations-specialist-10th-cab-hhc-10th-cab" target="_blank">Equal Opportunity Advisor at 10th CAB HHC, 10th CAB | Military Profile | RallyPoint</a></div><div class="pta-link-card-description">See the full military profile of this Equal Opportunity Advisor at 10th CAB HHC, 10th CAB, stationed at Fort Drum, NY | RallyPoint professional military profile.</div></div><div style="clear: both;"></div><div class="pta-box-hide"><i class="icon-remove"></i></div></div>
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SFC Lamont Womack
SFC Lamont Womack
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I don't like the post. I thought that was&nbsp;the whole&nbsp;purpose for the up and down votes.
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CPT Aaron Kletzing
CPT Aaron Kletzing
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Yes, just to clarify, I understand that some people may wonder why their posts/comments are voted down -- any member can vote a response down or up. &nbsp;It is nothing personal and should not be taken as such. &nbsp;We here at RallyPoint are working on broadening the functionality here, and in the future I would anticipate members being asked to clarify why they chose to vote something down. &nbsp;However, for the time being, if someone votes down your comment, please don't take it personally. &nbsp;Besides, if a bunch of people vote it up, then you're squared away anyway. &nbsp;But if a bunch of people end up voting it down, then it probably was not a good overall contribution. &nbsp;
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SFC James Baber
SFC James Baber
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SFC W, I agree with CPT Kletzing partially, but this is what many of us have spoken of before, out of courtesy to a poster if you don't like or agree with a post you have the right to down vote it but the poster also has a right to know and understand why you don't, it is common courtesy and something that would be expected of a senior person, just to blatantly give a down vote without clarification seems to be just a spite or personal type of thing whether it is or not, that is how it is perceived, We all have been told throughout our careers what perception is in reference to everything we do, say or convey in our daily performance.


It all comes back to integrity along with esprit de corps. 

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SFC James Baber
SFC James Baber
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Sir ,


I didn't nor do I ever take things like this personally, I was just concerned out of a courtesy aspect, if you don't like or agree with something, have the integrity to at least speak up about it and not just vote it down egregiously for the sake of doing it. This is some thing that you mentioned needs to be addressed for the future, as it could prevent personal biases from being put in play just for the sake of giving someone a down vote w/o justifying it.


This is just like an NCOER/OER, you can't just give a low rating without justification verbiage or documentation to back it up, or in any discussion verbally, most people are expected to clarify why they don't like or agree with something via backing it up or showing reasons why they have the stance they have, it is normal human behavior, not hide behind the button and randomly vote something down.


If I am wrong I apologize, but I am sure there are many other members who agree with and feel the same as I do on this issue. 

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Col Joseph Lenertz
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It's sad that those who enact new policy (in this case, $15 min wage) using their heart instead of their brain don't recognize ahead of time the 2nd order effects of what the policy will do. This one motivates businesses to switch to technology solutions earlier than planned...hurting the very people they hoped to help. What's even sadder, these same policy makers will not recognize or admit the results, even when they see them, after the fact.
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SPC John Conners
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I cant wait for this. Maybe now they will get my order right.
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SSG Ed Mikus
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there are a lot of gas stations with these at their food service counters in Maryland, i like them, i get exactly what i want and do not have to worry about my order being taken correctly.
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SSG Pod Load Technician
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And all them folks who protested for a min. wage increase will be replaced by these. Therefor furthering thier living arrangements with mom and dad
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SSG Joint Fires Observer
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Try CIF in the guard. I don't know if every state in like MA, but my unit can only get CIF appointments every 8 weeks. Prior Service solders show up to first drill with no gear to go to the field.
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CPT Richard Riley
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Systems like this are infiltrating many types of restaurants. I've seen two or three restaurants here in the Tampa Bay area that are using tablets for menu's and ordering so it seems to be the way things are moving to.
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Cpl Bulk Fuel Specialist
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Unfortunately, all big businesses want profits. Profited over people...which leads to unemployment.
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SPC Sql/Business Intelligence Consultant
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Technology does not replace jobs, technology replaces unskilled labor. We still need programmers to program machines, (skilled) factory workers to build these machines, analysts to analyze data, engineers to build/test machines, installers to install machines, and many others. If we can build quality machines, we can export these machines and grow the economy. Business improvement is good for the economy.
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SrA Eric Olsen
SrA Eric Olsen
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SPC Ilya P, Respectfully I have to disagree. I am a telecommunications technician and I am seeing first hand the results of what technology is doing to those of us in a skilled trade. Case in point is VoIP technology. What used to take an army of skilled technicians to install and maintain now takes far less. The shop that I'm in used to have over 200 technicians installing every aspect of a telecom CO (central office), now we number less than 15 and our numbers will probably be cut in half by years end. As technology improves it takes far less equipment to send voice and data signals than it used to. What used to take an entire floor of equipment now takes up just 1 row. And all those technicians that were needed to monitor it can now be done by 2-4 via computers and sometimes remotely at that. As I write this I find myself once again facing another layoff within the next few months, so, no technology doesn't just replace unskilled labor, it effects all aspects of the labor market, including skilled and trained labor.
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