Posted on Aug 20, 2021
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I’ve recently came back to active duty from the guard. One thing that I have noticed is that in the guard leadership knows that you have experience in other fields and put it to use when possible. I feel like if active duty would incorporate some of that retention rates would be higher and the overall force would be better for it.
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SFC Retention Operations Nco
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It's weird that people always believe that retention rates are poor. The Army exceeds its retention mission every single year, including the last minute mission increase we get every year when recruiting fails to make it's mission.

Guard and Regular Army are completely different beasts and when you try to get one to be like the other it ends up a mess. Remember that scene in the movie 300 where Leonidas asks what they're jobs are? Those potters, farmers and merchants are the Guard, those full time Soldiers are the Regular Army. One isn't better than the other, they just both do certain things better than the other.

Those Soldiers in the Regular Army you work with don't have any life skills outside their MOS. The majority of them joined out of high school and unless they grew up on a farm or working a family business, they only have the skills they learned in the Army. But that's all they do, so they do Army stuff very well, much better than most of the Guard. They also move every three years and their leadership switches out every year or two, so you don't have as much time to build deep relationships, but you do build a lot of relationships.

Contrast that with the Guard where everyone has a job other than the Army. You have full time carpenters, electricians, mechanics, police, firefighters, and every other skilled and unskilled craft represented. Most of the Soldiers with a deep knowledge of Army tactical and technical information came from Active duty at some point, or have been serving for decades. The people don't move between units very often so you build deeper relationships because you may work with the same people for five or ten years with little overturn.
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SFC (Join to see) well, I've actually been in both the NG and the Regular Army and deployed with both, and I have over twenty years of experience between the two so I will take my experience over your anecdotal conjecture
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SFC (Join to see) No he is pretty spot on. I have 20 years in spread across the Active Component, Reserve and NG. The 300 reference was a bit off, but everything else was spot on.
On the Active side, re-classing is possible but not one all that often, where in the Reserve you can re-class any time you move units (I have 3 mos's ans may get a 3rd) or in the Guard you are limited to what your state has.
As a reservist I have had a dozen non-Army jobs. I can fix cars, set up a supply chain, I have credentials to do certain medical procedures, train dogs, and am a subject matter expert on firearms both in shooting and their function. I would not have been able to learn all of that to the extent I have while on Active Duty.
If you disagree, thats fine, but back it up with something. It what way is he wrong?
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SSG (Join to see) I was actually having this same exact conversation with my Reserve Component counterpart last week about out experiences in the Guard vs Regular Army. He's an AGR now but he joined in the 90s like me and deployed with both components like I did. We came to the same conclusions, the Army is good at doing Army, the NG is good at doing all the other stuff you need to stay alive and live well on deployment
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SFC (Join to see) Yeah I agree with that. I kinda get the best and worst of both worlds. As a Reservist I get the training I need, when its needed but all the medical/dental stuff is essentially on my own time via the contractors. Then when I deploy I get attached to an active duty Infantry unit and have to constantly prove myself as well as deal with their culture and perception of Reserves
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Really, strange as an IIb I never handled logistics till I went to Battle Staff course. We never built much of anything, I seldom if ever used my college in Mechanical Engineering or Business Admin. NG and USAR have more varied missions than many AD units. Did Hearts and Minds often, be seldom anywhere to help a community.
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Good luck. The Army has been talking about certification for trade skills and that couting as your apprenticeship. Non starter. Unfortunately those that make those decisions are more concerned with all the bs instead of common sense troop building. But be careful of what you with for. If they find out you have a skill, you will get used and abused. But unless you are Audie Murphy or 270 pt score it will count for nothing.
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