Posted on Nov 11, 2021
How does transferring from Reserves to active duty affect my promotion status and Retention Control Point?
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Greetings, I’m a Specialist E4 that recently transferred from the Army Reserves to Regular Army. While in the reserves I graduated from BLC and had enough time in service and time in grade to promote to Corporal E4. How does this transfer affect my promotion status and Retention Control Point?
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Let me just clear up a few misconceptions of things that have changed over the years.
CPL is now automatic once you have been recommended by the promotion board and you've completed BLC.
HRC will determine whether or not you keep your promotable status, but expect to go before a board to get it back.
Your RCP is calculated from your BASD, so is your time in service.
Your date of rank will remain the same unless you are reduced by HRC when you transfer
CPL is now automatic once you have been recommended by the promotion board and you've completed BLC.
HRC will determine whether or not you keep your promotable status, but expect to go before a board to get it back.
Your RCP is calculated from your BASD, so is your time in service.
Your date of rank will remain the same unless you are reduced by HRC when you transfer
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CPT Lawrence Cable
Just curious, when did the E-4 (P) become a Corporal? Not that I disapprove, good encouragement I would think.
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CPT Lawrence Cable just a few months ago, at the same time the Army eliminated the MLI Mandatory List Integration. I think it was August 1st,
The requirement is must be Promotable and have completed BLC. No more limit on the number of CPLs in a unit, or CPLs only being in combat arms units. The idea is that once a Soldier is Promotable and has completed BLC they are fully qualified to be an NCO and are just waiting on points. Because of the 26 day rule, every SPC now "should" serve as a CPL for at least one month prior to pinning on SGT rank.
I think it's a smart move, and legitimizes the CPL rank across the Army a bit more.
The requirement is must be Promotable and have completed BLC. No more limit on the number of CPLs in a unit, or CPLs only being in combat arms units. The idea is that once a Soldier is Promotable and has completed BLC they are fully qualified to be an NCO and are just waiting on points. Because of the 26 day rule, every SPC now "should" serve as a CPL for at least one month prior to pinning on SGT rank.
I think it's a smart move, and legitimizes the CPL rank across the Army a bit more.
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CPT Lawrence Cable
SFC (Join to see) - I agree. Simple changes like this, getting hard stripes, make a difference to these young soldiers.
Now if I can just convince the DA to change the regulations on addressing NCO's to their real Rank, I'll be happy.
Now if I can just convince the DA to change the regulations on addressing NCO's to their real Rank, I'll be happy.
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Your TIS and TIG gets reset IOT remove you from RCP risk. As for the rank of CPL, unless your CPL stripes are DA approved, then you will lose them and revert back to SPC. While troops can be promoted to CPL within a unit, that is always unit based and will be reverted back to SPC once the troop leaves the unit. That is, unless a request a keep CPL is submitted to and approved by HQDA.
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All promotable SPC who are BLC complete on Active Duty will be promoted to CPL until they promote to SGT. MSG (Join to see) SGT (Join to see)
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SSG (Join to see) - I was under the impression the way that the question was written that he was given CPL in the Reserves. Since he is going from Reserves to Active, I wasn't sure how the new policy works with that so I just figured he would get reverted back to SPC.
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MSG (Join to see) - As long as he is BLC complete, he will retain his CPL as all Active Duty SPC with BLC are now automatically promoted to CPL.
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I'm not sure you understand Corporal rank in the Army. The rank of Corporal is the same as Specialist, just assigned in a leadership role. RCP is identical, 8 years or 10 years if you are E-4 (P).
Generally going from Reserve to Active Army means that your date of Rank reset to the date you enlisted Active. HRC has some formula for Time in Service coming from the reserve, but it's generally close to your first enlistment date. You should be looking at E-5 instead of a lateral promotion to another E-4 rank.
If you are in your Primary Zone, you can board with 6 months TIG as an E-4 and promote with 8 months TIG. I would hit the Retention NCO about any schools you need to make the list.
Generally going from Reserve to Active Army means that your date of Rank reset to the date you enlisted Active. HRC has some formula for Time in Service coming from the reserve, but it's generally close to your first enlistment date. You should be looking at E-5 instead of a lateral promotion to another E-4 rank.
If you are in your Primary Zone, you can board with 6 months TIG as an E-4 and promote with 8 months TIG. I would hit the Retention NCO about any schools you need to make the list.
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MAJ Ronnie Reams
Actually, not the same as Specialist 4, it puts you above all Specialists*, membership in NCO Mess, relieves one of fatigue details, etc. Used to be an Acting CPL back in the 1960s.
* back when there were several grades of Specialists
* back when there were several grades of Specialists
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CPT Lawrence Cable
MAJ Ronnie Reams - Corporal in the Army today, actually since the 80's as far as I can tell, is a unit based lateral transfer to a leadership position. If that soldier left that position, he reverts to Specialist.
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MAJ Ronnie Reams
CPT Lawrence Cable - Yeppers, happened to me. Went back to PFC when left company. The permanent CPLs were busted SGTs
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