Posted on Mar 25, 2022
LTC Ray Buenteo
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“Following a three year review the Army has scrapped plans to use the same physical fitness test for all soldiers, choosing instead to have reduced standards to allow all women and older soldiers to pass.” Announced March 23, 2022.
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This is nothing more than Army leadership failing to acknowledge sunk costs on what was always a highly flawed test since inception. Instead of pulling the plug, like what happens in hundreds of failed RDT&E projects, Big Army doubles down on the program to avoid embarrassment. Now they don’t even claim it is an assessment of “combat readiness”, which was the whole point of the new test in the first place.
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I see it as the Army finally saw some common sense in that not every single Soldier is made the same. Some great at running...others not so much. Others are great at push ups...others not so much. And while the standards may be "lowered," it is still up to the Soldier to pass the events. Having done the 3 event test for years.....and now the ACFT, I can say that the new test....while with newer/updated standards....will kick your six.
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SPC (Join to see) - Try having to do the SDC while having achilles tendon issues. No fun. I barely make time.
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MSG (Join to see) - For us, the older generation, if we don't warm up or stretch enough we may end up with a torn calf...on the SDC
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SFC (Join to see) - That's no bullshit right there.
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Agreed, getting older sucks, stretching and ibuprofen is life now.
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It's kind of a no-brainer. If physical fitness standards are part of promotion evaluation, and one group biologically will always score lower than another, then you have just disadvantaged one group and opened up a class action lawsuit.

The Army either had to get rid of PT standards in promotions or make them more fair. Some of the standard are the same for women and men, and some are not. Anyone who expects the majority of women to deadlift 340 pounds is ridiculous, especially when you consider how many younger females in the Army weigh under 150 pounds. If a woman who weighs 100 pounds deadlifts 180, while a guy who weighs 200 deadlifts 300, by most athletic standards the woman has outlifted the man by body weight percentage.

As for this being a combat test, how many people who have successfully deployed as an Intel, commo, HR, transportation, supply person have had to drag a 200 pound person or deadlift 300 pound? Very, very few. Not enough that the promotions of every support MOS should be heavily influenced by it.

Also, I would like to point out that the male standards really did not drop with age. Once you hit about 50, sure the max drops. But when you're 50 your PT score is not a factor for promotion between you and your other 50 year old peers.
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