Posted on May 21, 2022
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I just passed my CISSP and it feels like a ✔️ in a block for my military 8570 role, but my civilian employment opportunities instantly grew exponentially. What is your experience?
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LCDR Robert Turner
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The 8570 was supposed to be a kickstart for people to learn and earn the credential to fill positions that needed it. It quickly lost value when the job requirement was waived for people who could or would not earn it. Like any other career milestone, earning a covered credential should be seen as a victory, not a check in the box. Celebrate appropriately then look for that next opportunity.
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Valid viewpoint. I just think that if the only benefit to getting some of the more difficult certs is me getting to keep my position, it loses a little luster. In the civilian side it opens so many doors.
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LCDR Robert Turner
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CW2 (Join to see) I earned mine in 2005 just as the 8570 was rolling out. It made me a better analyst and served as a continued source of opportunity as I maintained the certification through continued education. The life long desire to learn is a good thing.
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LCDR Robert Turner for sure, but learning and certification aren't necessarily equivalent. I've got Cissp, CEH, Cisco CCENT, sec+ and net+ and was/am at risk of being transferred to a line unit because until very recently didn't satisfy the IAM Level III requirement. It's just a weird dynamic shift from military to civilian mindset, but then again, what isn't?
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LCDR Robert Turner
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CPO Andrew Gardiner thanks for that update. I have been out of the Federal arena for 7+ years and am glad to see a rule finally being followed. I agree that it is unfortunate if you are not given the opportunity and time to earn the credentials. But, if that’s what qualifies you to do the mission, you do it and keep it current or seek another mission.

In my current role, the credential and education equals credibility. Without that credibility, there’s no job. Same result …
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CW2 Wendell Karrick
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I continued my career in LE when I retired and was a Special Agent Supervisor for the Arizona Attorney Generals Office for the next 25 years
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