Posted on Jun 2, 2022
Can TPU to TPU transfer orders be cancelled due to involuntary MOB??
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I requested a transfer from a unit because we were overstrength in my position. The transfer request was signed and I now have orders transferring me to the new unit. Can these orders be revoked before the effective date of the transfer?? After the paperwork had been by my submitted to S1 from my HHC CDR, my LTC said that I could be involuntarily mobilized to a unit inside our Command. My new unit is in another Command. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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If your unit is overstrength and the unit isn't being deployed, I would say
you as the excess individual is the one trooper most likely to be MOB'ed.
you as the excess individual is the one trooper most likely to be MOB'ed.
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A game I learned is that those sitting in over strength slots on the UMR are more likely to get pulled away when higher command wants to level the billet shortages in other units.
Soooooo......... we as commanders were motivated to keep our best soldiers in the primary vacancies and hope that a higher echelon manning leveling would magically get rid of problem soldiers.
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I remember when the new ACFT uniforms cam out (Black ones) a newly transferred solder had used yellow paint on his old ones to make ARMY yellow on the old shorts. Then he went on about how he's always being moved around by higher command to different units.
Then I remember thinking (as the commander at the time): Oh God Damn It.................. that UMR overage game works both ways.
Soooooo......... we as commanders were motivated to keep our best soldiers in the primary vacancies and hope that a higher echelon manning leveling would magically get rid of problem soldiers.
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I remember when the new ACFT uniforms cam out (Black ones) a newly transferred solder had used yellow paint on his old ones to make ARMY yellow on the old shorts. Then he went on about how he's always being moved around by higher command to different units.
Then I remember thinking (as the commander at the time): Oh God Damn It.................. that UMR overage game works both ways.
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SFC Ralph E Kelley
CPT (Join to see) - I feel your pain. I too, remember placing a poorly performing SGT/E5 as excess in our unit paperwork and kept his excellently preforming junior SGT/E5 in the Squad Leader slot.
Then it was "Poof!", the poor performer was transferred. Only problem was as soon as the Great SGT/E5 got promoted to the SSG/E6, my unit's policy moved him to another Cavalry Troop to take over a scout Section and I got the poor performer back.
Then it was "Poof!", the poor performer was transferred. Only problem was as soon as the Great SGT/E5 got promoted to the SSG/E6, my unit's policy moved him to another Cavalry Troop to take over a scout Section and I got the poor performer back.
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SFC Ralph E Kelley - Yea, I've learned we don't usually see all the pieces on the board at our level, and there's always a level above us.
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In general, a transfer order can be revoked before or after the effective date of transfer.
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I think we are all exposed to being involuntarily mobilized as an individual augmentee no matter where we sit on a UMR and no matter what unit we are assigned to. I would even go as far to say it can happen outside of our chain of command as well, because what truly is our chain of command?
I suppose at the same level from different commands we can't be snatched away, but in that case they just go up one more level and poof we are now in the same command.
I speculate that commanders and 1SG's are least likely to be snatched away as an individual augmentee, but there is nothing stopping it (technically).
I suppose at the same level from different commands we can't be snatched away, but in that case they just go up one more level and poof we are now in the same command.
I speculate that commanders and 1SG's are least likely to be snatched away as an individual augmentee, but there is nothing stopping it (technically).
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