Posted on Jul 15, 2022
Is telling an NCO (Corporal) to check his attitude considered disrespectful?
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soldier E-4 specialist is having a dilemma with newly promoted corporal the whole issue is this corporal is trying to counsel m this solider for telling him to check his attitude because. After received a message say the he better find his lose item or else. The soldier did lay out and some gears was lost (pair gloves) which it was found it. The issue I see the whole conversation was thru text messages which it make it a grey area how you will approach this situation in what AR prevent a soldier from telling a NCO to checks his attitude.
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The Corporal is a Noncommissioned Officer. The Specialist is NOT a Noncommissioned Officer. Regardless of how the conversation when, the SPC telling the CPL to check their attitude can and will be considered Disrespect to an NCO. It does not matter the medium for the conversation, what does matter was the words said and how they were perceived. If the Corporal were so inclined, they could recommend UCMJ for violation of Article 91 of the UCMJ.
This can also be used as a training/learning lesson for the newly made CPL and the SPC by way of mediation of the Squad Leader. Moving forward, the SPC needs to check their attitude and be mindful of what they say. And the CPL, well, they need to be assertive but careful with their words as well.
This can also be used as a training/learning lesson for the newly made CPL and the SPC by way of mediation of the Squad Leader. Moving forward, the SPC needs to check their attitude and be mindful of what they say. And the CPL, well, they need to be assertive but careful with their words as well.
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Is this Corporal in a leadership position over the other Solider? Was there a tone to the text or was it up to interpretation? Text is tricky because it lacks tone and is easily misunderstood. Context matter. I would loop in another NCO for perspective and possibly a third party who can calm things down. Sounds like it is most likely a misunderstanding which is common in emails and text. But, if the subordinate was being disrespectful to he Corporal because they view it as an E4 to E4 thing that is something else that should be addressed.
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SFC (Join to see) - I would love to watch a SPC tell a CSM to check their attitude.
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SSgt Christophe Murphy
SPC (Join to see) - If I ever told an Officer or senior SNCO to check their attitude in person or via text I would expect some hate and discontent heading my way in one form or another. Your sentence doesn't fully make sense due to grammar but the Solider didn't need to say "check your attitude". It was out of place.
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I’m sorry I was thinking faster than my finger typing the words. Bith are members of the same squad but the whole issue started with one of then going to school and then BLC making the corporal being away from the unit for some time while we were prepared to go a FTX all the required gears was store in a connex then one day the unit decided to do a lay out so the corporal stuff was just laying on the floor no one was pick he’s stuff and this guy decide I guess be nice by putting the gear in his car and let him know the he has his stuff and after he handled back to him he notice he’s gloves were missing and that’s how the whole mess started. ~473975:SSgt Christophe Murphy]
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SSgt Christophe Murphy
SPC (Join to see) thanks for going back over it.
There is still a level of decorum needed when talking to someone of a higher rank/station. Tact is needed in such situations. I’m not judging the Solider for how he felt but what he said and how he said it. I still think a mediator third party needs to come in and squash the whole thing but telling a team/squad leader to check their attitude is a quick way to start some static
There is still a level of decorum needed when talking to someone of a higher rank/station. Tact is needed in such situations. I’m not judging the Solider for how he felt but what he said and how he said it. I still think a mediator third party needs to come in and squash the whole thing but telling a team/squad leader to check their attitude is a quick way to start some static
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Think about it for a second would you tell an E5-E9 to "Check their attitude?" That would cost you- so what is different to a CPL? Oh yeah they are both E-4's, but the CPL is a hard stripe NCO, just like any other NCO- Contrary to barracks lawyers it's the same pay scale, but has never been equal, period
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